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DEW
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24 March 2020 06:46:04

For today's developments


War does not determine who is right, only who is left - Bertrand Russell

Chichester 12m asl
Gooner
24 March 2020 06:55:39

Well another day ahead , all eyes will be on the numbers Gav normally throws in.


One thing I wish we could have more clarity on is the testing , we seem miles behind other countries.


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Marcus
Banbury
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DEW
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24 March 2020 06:56:20

Suely the most unpleasant story this morning


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-52014023


Care home residents in Spain left to die of starvation (and some did so, too)


War does not determine who is right, only who is left - Bertrand Russell

Chichester 12m asl
Rob K
24 March 2020 07:02:24
The fact that Spain and Italy are the worst affected places in Europe must surely give the lie to the idea that warmer weather will slow the spread in this country?

I’m slightly in limbo today - I am meant to be starting my new job, with my manager bringing me a laptop and other equipment so I can work from home. Since last night’s announcement he won’t be able to do that, I assume. I sent him a message soon after the announcement and he said he will call me this morning.

Fortunately my wife recently bought a new laptop to use for a course which will now be postponed, so hopefully I can still get set up remotely using my own equipment.
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Brian Gaze
24 March 2020 07:04:18

What on earth is this guy thinking? He's going to do virtually no trade and trash the reputation of his business even further. Idiot.


Mike Ashley's Sports Direct will STAY OPEN as boss suggests they are key workers because no one else can supply home fitness equipment to the whole nation


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8144987/Mike-Ashleys-Sports-Direct-STAY-OPEN-bosses-say-key-workers-coronavirus-outbreak.html


 


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Heavy Weather 2013
24 March 2020 07:07:51

Reports are coming in already of packed London Underground trains this morning.


Mark
Beckton, E London
Less than 500m from the end of London City Airport runway.
JHutch
24 March 2020 07:09:06

Doesnt sound promising


 



Bugglesgate
24 March 2020 07:10:11


What on earth is this guy thinking? He's going to do virtually no trade and trash the reputation of his business even further. Idiot.


Mike Ashley's Sports Direct will STAY OPEN as boss suggests they are key workers because no one else can supply home fitness equipment to the whole nation


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8144987/Mike-Ashleys-Sports-Direct-STAY-OPEN-bosses-say-key-workers-coronavirus-outbreak.html


 


Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 


He's another Bloody  "spoon head" Martin.   The bottom line governs  all their thinking.  I hope the fuzz arrest him ! 


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Caz
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24 March 2020 07:13:34

The fact that Spain and Italy are the worst affected places in Europe must surely give the lie to the idea that warmer weather will slow the spread in this country?

I’m slightly in limbo today - I am meant to be starting my new job, with my manager bringing me a laptop and other equipment so I can work from home. Since last night’s announcement he won’t be able to do that, I assume. I sent him a message soon after the announcement and he said he will call me this morning.

Fortunately my wife recently bought a new laptop to use for a course which will now be postponed, so hopefully I can still get set up remotely using my own equipment.

Originally Posted by: Rob K 

I don’t think it’s clear yet wether temperature affects the spread of the virus.  But Spain and Italy are not hot at this time of year, think of Italian ski resorts, where they exported a lot of cases. 


Travel for work is accepted, so I would think delivery of work equipment is included in that, especially so as it’s a means of working from home and thus reducing your future exposure. 


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Heavy Weather 2013
24 March 2020 07:14:35


Doesnt sound promising


 




Originally Posted by: JHutch 


If they had closed construction this problem would have been removed.


I usually travel on the Jubilee line from Stratford and the tubes are packed of construction workers from 6-7:30. This is even when there is a full service operating.


When they sit at Cobra meetings surely someone has the brain cells to link these issues together


Mark
Beckton, E London
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doctormog
24 March 2020 07:15:59
A crazy (and possibly) unworkable thought would be to change the contactless payment/Oystercard system so that it only works for pre-approved users and have signage to that effect.

It would be resource intensive but bar a blanket closure which would impact vital key workers I’m not sure what else is workable.
JHutch
24 March 2020 07:18:10

Heavy Weather 2013
24 March 2020 07:19:11

A crazy (and possibly) unworkable thought would be to change the contactless payment/Oystercard system so that it only works for pre-approved users and have signage to that effect.

It would be resource intensive but bar a blanket closure which would impact vital key workers I’m not sure what else is workable.

Originally Posted by: doctormog 


They have to close ALL construction sites. I can almost say for certain this would massively reduce the influx of users.


Mark
Beckton, E London
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Brian Gaze
24 March 2020 07:23:37
People "beating each other up to get on the tube" this morning.
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CreweCold
24 March 2020 07:26:21




Originally Posted by: JHutch 


Bloody hell.


I wouldn't be getting on that if someone paid me 5 figures there and then. 



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Caz
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24 March 2020 07:28:10




Originally Posted by: JHutch 

It’s images like this posted on social media that has prompted this lockdown.  Surely this must prompt further action for construction workers.  Separate transport could surely be arranged with less connection on the roads. 


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DEW
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24 March 2020 07:29:58

No wonder London has more cases than anywhere else.


War does not determine who is right, only who is left - Bertrand Russell

Chichester 12m asl
Ulric
24 March 2020 07:30:11
London is so densely populated during the working day that separation must be impossible, particularly with reduced transport services. I'm very grateful that I can work from home and that the office is closed. I couldn't go in there even if I wanted to.

The volume of transport (people, goods and waste) necessary to sustain a city of that size and density, is staggering. I'm actually surprised that it is still functioning to the extent that it is.
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Caz
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24 March 2020 07:34:29

London is so densely populated during the working day that separation must be impossible, particularly with reduced transport services. I'm very grateful that I can work from home and that the office is closed. I couldn't go in there even if I wanted to.

The volume of transport (people, goods and waste) necessary to sustain a city of that size and density, is staggering. I'm actually surprised that it is still functioning to the extent that it is.

Originally Posted by: Ulric 

I genuinely thought our next steps to lockdown would have been London and I thought it would happen last Friday after commuters had returned to their homes elsewhere in the UK.  I just hope that all those who live elsewhere, didn’t return on Monday.  


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nsrobins
24 March 2020 07:35:08


I don’t think it’s clear yet wether temperature affects the spread of the virus.  But Spain and Italy are not hot at this time of year, think of Italian ski resorts, where they exported a lot of cases. 


Travel for work is accepted, so I would think delivery of work equipment is included in that, especially so as it’s a means of working from home and thus reducing your future exposure. 


Originally Posted by: Caz 


Yep, nothing wrong with delivery. We have a new starter today and I’m sending her a laptop and phone courtesy of UPS which are working normally.


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Brian Gaze
24 March 2020 07:37:19




Originally Posted by: JHutch 


Shocking. Even worse that she's a sonographer and going to work. 


Brian Gaze
Berkhamsted
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JHutch
24 March 2020 07:37:41


No wonder London has more cases than anywhere else.


Originally Posted by: DEW 


Its a wonder that it doesnt have much much more. The Northern Line can be that busy, or busier, from where i live until Bank for about an hour and a half every weekday morning. 

Gooner
24 March 2020 07:37:49

I currently call our situation a restriction rather than a lockdown , the only way to stop the virus is a total lockdown .


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Marcus
Banbury
North Oxfordshire
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Retron
24 March 2020 07:39:13
It's the last day of self-isolation for me today - and what a different world it is to last Wednesday! I've still got an annoying cough, mind you, but strangely the guidelines only say to self-isolate if you have a new cough.

I'll find out later whether they want me to come in to the school tomorrow. I hope that common sense will prevail and I'll be allowed to continue working from home, but we'll see...


Leysdown, north Kent
Ulric
24 March 2020 07:41:10
A crowded tube train must be close to a perfect environment for transmission. Many thousands of people still using it every day.

What is that telling us about prevalence and the frequency of serious symptoms? I think that all countries testing is actually biased towards serious cases only because it is a criteria for admission to critical care. Younger, fitter people appear to be able to get through covid-19 in 10 days without help. It is so hard to make sense of the numbers.
To doubt everything or to believe everything are two equally convenient solutions; both dispense with the necessity of reflection. - Henri Poincaré

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