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speckledjim
02 April 2020 16:08:02


 


I was referring to an American study but just did a quick google for UK data. 


Data from the Intensive Care National Audit and Research Centre (ICNARC) showed that of 165 patients treated in critical care in England, Wales and Northern Ireland since the end of February, 79 died, while 86 survived and were discharged. The figures were taken from an audit of 775 people who have been or are in critical care with the disease, across 285 intensive care units. The remaining 610 patients continue to receive intensive care.


(...)


The audit suggested that men are at much higher risk from the virus – seven in ten of all ICU patients were male, while 30% of men in critical care were under 60, compared to just 15% of women. Excess weight also appears to be a significant risk factor; over 70% of patients were overweight, obese or clinically obese on the body mass index scale.


https://www.theguardian.com/society/2020/mar/28/coronavirus-intensive-care-uk-patients-50-per-cent-survival-rate


Originally Posted by: nouska 


And add to that the smokers...


Thorner, West Yorkshire


Journalism is organised gossip
westv
02 April 2020 16:08:39


 


Hampshire is only the 55th most affected local authority in England (out of 149) when adjusted for population.


https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-uk-tracker-how-many-cases-are-in-your-area-updated-daily-11956258


Originally Posted by: Darren S 


And it looks like my location is 149.


At least it will be mild!
Essan
02 April 2020 16:10:16


 I'm 57 with no underlying conditions but I don't have any worries about the virus affect on me if I catch it.


Originally Posted by: westv 



All you can be certain of is that if you do catch it you will either not even know, it will be mild and you'll be fine after a few days at home, you will collapse and be rushed to hospital and put in an ICU and recover after a few weeks, or you will die.   


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westv
02 April 2020 16:12:26




All you can be certain of is that if you do catch it you will either not even know, it will be mild and you'll be fine after a few days at home, you will collapse and be rushed to hospital and put in an ICU and recover after a few weeks, or you will die.   


Originally Posted by: Essan 


I never said there were certainties - I just said I have no worries.


At least it will be mild!
Gavin D
02 April 2020 16:14:09

NHS trusts in London have recorded a further 162 deaths from Coronavirus to 5pm on Wednesday 1st April. The deaths were recorded between March 18th and April 1st and were announced today.



  • Imperial College Healthcare Trust - 28 deaths (between 21/3 and 30/3)

  • King's College Hospital NHS Foundation Trust - 21 deaths (between 22/3 and 1/4)

  • North Middlesex University Hospital NHS Trust - 18 deaths (between 25/3 and 31/3)

  • London North West University Healthcare Trust - 13 deaths (between 25/3 and 31/3)

  • Croydon Health Services NHS Trust - 11 deaths (between 22/3 and 30/3)

  • Epsom and St Helier University Hospitals NHS Trust - 11 deaths (between 22/3 and 30/3)

  • Barts Health NHS Trust - 8 deaths (between 28/3 and 31/3)

  • St George's University Hospitals NHS Foundation Trust - 8 deaths (between 26/3 and 30/3)

  • Whittington Health NHS Trust - 7 deaths (between 18/3 and 26/3)

  • Kingston Hospital NHS Foundation Hospital - 7 deaths (between 31/3 and 1/4)

  • University College London Hospitals NHS Foundation Trust - 6 deaths (between 29/3 and 1/4)

  • Chelsea and Westminster Hospital NHS Foundation Trust - 5 deaths (between 30/3 and 1/4)

  • Guy's and St Thomas' NHS Foundation Trust - 4 deaths (between 18/3 and 1/4)

  • The Hillingdon Hospitals NHS Foundation Trust - 4 deaths (between 26/3 and 1/4)

  • Royal Hospital for Neuro Disability - 2 deaths (between 25/3 and 26/3)

  • Barking Havering and Redbridge University Hospital NHS - 2 deaths (between 29/3 and 30/3)

  • Royal Free London NHS Trust - 1 death (30/3)

  • The Princess Grace HCA UK a private hospital in Marylebone - 1 death (25/3)

Northern Sky
02 April 2020 16:19:50

Getting the sense that people are becoming a bit complacent/bored with lockdown. Lots of anecdotes about people ignoring advice and being out and about. I noticed quite a lot of people yesterday when I went to work, warm weather at the weekend might mean more. 

Heavy Weather 2013
02 April 2020 16:21:56


Getting the sense that people are becoming a bit complacent/bored with lockdown. Lots of anecdotes about people ignoring advice and being out and about. I noticed quite a lot of people yesterday when I went to work, warm weather at the weekend might mean more. 


Originally Posted by: Northern Sky 


Yes I’ve noticed this as well. I fear Sunday could be the straw that breaks the camels back.


Mark
Beckton, E London
Less than 500m from the end of London City Airport runway.
Gavin D
02 April 2020 16:23:57
Matt Hancock will be taking todays government press conference at 17:25 after recovering from Coronavirus
Gavin D
02 April 2020 16:26:48

Italy have reported 4,668 new cases and 760 new deaths.



  • New cases have fallen by 94

  • New deaths have increased by 33

Heavy Weather 2013
02 April 2020 16:28:45




Originally Posted by: The Beast from the East 


This needs to be played directly to him during one of these daily briefings. I am astonished how bad this looks.


Mark
Beckton, E London
Less than 500m from the end of London City Airport runway.
Gavin D
02 April 2020 16:30:11
12,949 in hospital with Convid-19
Gavin D
02 April 2020 16:34:22
Mr Hancock has announced he is writing off £13.4bn of historic NHS debt
Gavin D
02 April 2020 16:38:04
Several of the tests the Government is checking have failed one of them was wrong in 3 out of 4 cases
Heavy Weather 2013
02 April 2020 16:39:10
So apparently we are now going to get to 25,000 tests by the end of April.

What happens to mid April?
Mark
Beckton, E London
Less than 500m from the end of London City Airport runway.
Brian Gaze
02 April 2020 16:40:45


 


I was referring to an American study but just did a quick google for UK data. 


Data from the Intensive Care National Audit and Research Centre (ICNARC) showed that of 165 patients treated in critical care in England, Wales and Northern Ireland since the end of February, 79 died, while 86 survived and were discharged. The figures were taken from an audit of 775 people who have been or are in critical care with the disease, across 285 intensive care units. The remaining 610 patients continue to receive intensive care.


(...)


The audit suggested that men are at much higher risk from the virus – seven in ten of all ICU patients were male, while 30% of men in critical care were under 60, compared to just 15% of women. Excess weight also appears to be a significant risk factor; over 70% of patients were overweight, obese or clinically obese on the body mass index scale.


https://www.theguardian.com/society/2020/mar/28/coronavirus-intensive-care-uk-patients-50-per-cent-survival-rate


Originally Posted by: nouska 


 The following from The Times:


Obesity
Public Health England has urged those with a body mass index of 40 or above to be stringent in avoiding the virus. Being overweight puts increased strain on the heart and lungs: there is less of a buffer if the body is put under additional stress by pneumonia or other complications.


A breakdown of 196 of the first cases admitted to critical care in Britain, carried out by the Intensive Care National Audit and Research Centre, showed that about a third had a BMI of between 30 and 40, which made them clinically obese.


https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/who-is-being-hit-hardest-by-coronavirus-zrsv8xvdh


However from Wiki:


Data published as a part of the World Health Organisation (WHO) study in 2018 indicated that 28.1% of adults in the United Kingdom were recognised as clinically obese with a Body Mass Index (BMI) greater than 30.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Obesity_in_the_United_Kingdom


 


Therefore the correlation seems quite a weak one to me. Not sure what others think or if I have misunderstood the data. 


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Gavin D
02 April 2020 16:40:58
More than 5,000 NHS workers have now been tested. 5.7% of doctors are currently absent due to COVID-19.
Gavin D
02 April 2020 16:42:46
Matt Hancock: 100,000 tests per day by the end of this month
Heavy Weather 2013
02 April 2020 16:44:05

Matt Hancock: 100,000 tests per day by the end of this month

Originally Posted by: Gavin D 


Correct. Which is why I don’t understand why he said we would get to 25,000 by the end of April or maybe I misunderstood?


Mark
Beckton, E London
Less than 500m from the end of London City Airport runway.
Heavy Weather 2013
02 April 2020 16:45:15
When someone says at the start. I’m going to level with you. Does this not mean they have not been level to start with?
Mark
Beckton, E London
Less than 500m from the end of London City Airport runway.
Perthite1
02 April 2020 16:46:16


 


The worst thing about C19 is the uncertainty. If I catch a cold or flu I have a good idea what to expect and can be very confident I will recover fully within a couple of weeks or so. With C19 it feels as though you are playing Russian Roulette. I say that from the point of view of someone who has just turned 50 and has no diagnosed underlying medical conditions. I'm not particularly susceptible to infections or illnesses and my parents both had good innings. But still... 


Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 


The majority of people will be fine after this virus though and we have to remember that. Clearly though from what I heard from this Doctor today there are months if not years of work ahead to understand the full implications of C19. 

Gavin D
02 April 2020 16:46:22
Motor vehicle usage remains steady after its increase a couple of days ago
Heavy Weather 2013
02 April 2020 16:49:31
100,000 Tests is across all types of tests.
Mark
Beckton, E London
Less than 500m from the end of London City Airport runway.
Darren S
02 April 2020 16:52:23

Motor vehicle usage remains steady after its increase a couple of days ago

Originally Posted by: Gavin D 


Wasn't that increase from Sunday to Monday? In other words, people going to work?


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warrenb
02 April 2020 16:54:51


 


Wasn't that increase from Sunday to Monday? In other words, people going to work?


Originally Posted by: Darren S 


Something to look at is are companies beginning to force people into work to carry on in business.


noodle doodle
02 April 2020 17:04:42


 


I'm afraid there is little correlation between what Hancock says and what actually happens down the line. Always just an optimistic promise that isn't delivered.


Originally Posted by: fairweather 


 


Agreed, the bloke is just picking numbers out his arse that sound impressive


 


https://youtu.be/0obMRztklqU?t=35


 


 

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