A few of my locals are doing off-sales in plastic containers and it’s more than half decent and much better than the bottled stuff which is fine but will never replace a decent hand pulled ale.

Originally Posted by: nsrobins 

I thought the problem was more about a large number being hospitalised, exhausting NHS resources and thereby potentially leading to deaths amongst those not connected with Covid19.

Originally Posted by: westv 

I thought the problem was more about a large number being hospitalised, exhausting NHS resources and thereby potentially leading to deaths amongst those not connected with Covid19.

Originally Posted by: westv 

I really haven’t found people to be arrogant generally.  Although where I walk, it’s easy to avoid anyone walking the opposite way, as the paths are through wide grassed areas.  I always expect to give way to others and I’m always thanked or acknowledged.  It usually generates polite verbal exchange and a laugh!

I accept that everyone’s situation is different and I’m lucky to live surrounded by countryside.  Being sensible and accepting that not everyone has common sense, is probably the best approach. 

Originally Posted by: Caz 

It just occurred to me that even if we hit 100,000 tests per week it would still take well over 10 years to test everyone, even if it’s just once each - which won’t be enough.

So, testing isn’t going to solve the problem either.

Originally Posted by: Gandalf The White 

And don't forget to make the floor sticky with alcohol and move your toilet to three doors down the street for that added Wetherspoon’s effect.

Originally Posted by: doctormog 

I thought the problem was more about a large number being hospitalised, exhausting NHS resources and thereby potentially leading to deaths amongst those not connected with Covid19.

Originally Posted by: westv 

Neil Ferguson making predictions again:

He told BBC Radio 4: "The critical thing first is to get case numbers down, and then I'm hopeful... in a few weeks' time we will be able to move to a regime which will not be normal life, let me emphasise that, but will be somewhat more relaxed in terms of social distancing and the economy, but relying more on testing."

- What ‘more relaxed’ social distancing could be mean?
- Why is he talking about the economy? He should stick to the science and that only.
- Testing so far has not been great

It’s a bold prediction to make. Was he the professor that also said deaths would peak at 260?

Originally Posted by: Heavy Weather 2013 

Neil Ferguson making predictions again:

He told BBC Radio 4: "The critical thing first is to get case numbers down, and then I'm hopeful... in a few weeks' time we will be able to move to a regime which will not be normal life, let me emphasise that, but will be somewhat more relaxed in terms of social distancing and the economy, but relying more on testing."

- What ‘more relaxed’ social distancing could be mean?
- Why is he talking about the economy? He should stick to the science and that only.
- Testing so far has not been great

It’s a bold prediction to make. Was he the professor that also said deaths would peak at 260?

Originally Posted by: Heavy Weather 2013 

Whoever he is, I like him!

End this lockdown ASAP! Get Britain open for business again!

Originally Posted by: The Beast from the East 

I really haven’t found people to be arrogant generally.  Although where I walk, it’s easy to avoid anyone walking the opposite way, as the paths are through wide grassed areas.  I always expect to give way to others and I’m always thanked or acknowledged.  It usually generates polite verbal exchange and a laugh!

I accept that everyone’s situation is different and I’m lucky to live surrounded by countryside.  Being sensible and accepting that not everyone has common sense, is probably the best approach. 

Originally Posted by: Caz 

The strategy is wrong, since we are completely trashing the economy when there would have been no need

Originally Posted by: Maunder Minimum 

Neil Ferguson making predictions again:

He told BBC Radio 4: "The critical thing first is to get case numbers down, and then I'm hopeful... in a few weeks' time we will be able to move to a regime which will not be normal life, let me emphasise that, but will be somewhat more relaxed in terms of social distancing and the economy, but relying more on testing."

- What ‘more relaxed’ social distancing could be mean?
- Why is he talking about the economy? He should stick to the science and that only.
- Testing so far has not been great

It’s a bold prediction to make. Was he the professor that also said deaths would peak at 260?

Originally Posted by: Heavy Weather 2013 

Agreed Beast - agree 100% now.

Originally Posted by: Maunder Minimum 

Beast and Maunder both wanting to put people to the slaughter.

What a disgrace

Originally Posted by: Heavy Weather 2013 

Beast and Maunder both wanting to put people to the slaughter.

What a disgrace

Originally Posted by: Heavy Weather 2013 

It's a balancing act. Yes, we can't "let it rip" as the loss of life would be massive and the strain on the NHS will most likely cause it to cave in. At the same time, there's only so much of the economy we can sacrifice. If there's no money coming in, you can't fund the NHS or anything else for that matter.

No one wants to see thousands or millions die from this disease, but I can also assure you, no one wants to live through a depression either.

What they need to do is buy these antibody tests and return people have recovered and are immune to work. At the same time, extend the lockdown to the beginning of the end of April and then start a massive track and trace scheme to make sure the disease doesn't remege in the autumn, otherwise we will be back to lockdowns by October.

Am I confident this will happen though? No.

Originally Posted by: Bolty 

Agreed Beast - agree 100% now.

Originally Posted by: Maunder Minimum 

It's a balancing act. Yes, we can't "let it rip" as the loss of life would be massive and the strain on the NHS will most likely cause it to cave in. At the same time, there's only so much of the economy we can sacrifice. If there's no money coming in, you can't fund the NHS or anything else for that matter, and that is just as devastating.

Originally Posted by: Bolty 

Today is the first time I’ve actually read the NHS pages. 

https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/coronavirus-covid-19/self-isolation-advice/

One thing has surprised me - if you have symptoms, the guidance suggests it is still ok to go out and have your daily walk in the park. 

Given my experiences, this is worrying and makes me want to stay in! I thought previous to this that at least if everyone was following the guidelines, nobody with symptoms would be out! 

Originally Posted by: Joe Bloggs 

If they got the best IT and medical/scientific brains together there has to be a good chance of organising a mass scale contact tracing programme. Using an app probably! 

Originally Posted by: Joe Bloggs 

This is not true. In times of emergency it is possible to switch over to a planned or command economy where "money" becomes an even more abstract concept than in normal times. It is only a mechanism for allocating resources. During WW2 even the UK switched to being primarily a command economy. 

Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze