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David M Porter
06 April 2020 19:44:50

Our PM lies at death's door.
Over 5,000 of our countrymen dead.
This 'mess' all created by China.
Heard anything from them? Looked after themselves while the world buries and cremates its dead, tens of millions of jobs lost, economies lost for years, and they are buying up shares at a knock down price. They are opening up for business again and will mop up everything.

I had a dream last night about WW3 because the world revolted against China (and North Korea) who never put any of the wrongs right.
I am feeling very angry at the moment how that country has put the world in this position.

Originally Posted by: Phil G 


Me too, Phil.


Like many people in recent years, I have bought more than my fair share of household goods that were manufactured in China. However, after the events of the past three months and especially the past month in this country, I think I'll be doing everything I can to avoid buying anything ever again that is a product of that country.

Lenzie, Glasgow

"Let us not take ourselves too seriously. None of us has a monopoly on wisdom, and we must always be ready to listen and respect other points of view."- Queen Elizabeth II 1926-2022
CreweCold
06 April 2020 19:45:25

Our PM lies at death's door.
Over 5,000 of our countrymen dead.
This 'mess' all created by China.
Heard anything from them? Looked after themselves while the world buries and cremates its dead, tens of millions of jobs lost, economies lost for years, and they are buying up shares at a knock down price. They are opening up for business again and will mop up everything.

I had a dream last night about WW3 because the world revolted against China (and North Korea) who never put any of the wrongs right.
I am feeling very angry at the moment how that country has put the world in this position.

Originally Posted by: Phil G 


I hope the world can collectively take them to task. Fack the economics of it all. How many times will this happen again in the future if nothing is done?


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Rob K
06 April 2020 19:45:47
I must say I have had an awful sense of inevitability since hearing the first rumours about Boris yesterday evening. Hopefully that sense is misplaced but it’s had the air of bad-news management from the start 😞
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Gavin D
06 April 2020 19:46:47
Boris Johnson experienced breathing difficulties this afternoon and was given oxygen.

When it became clear that he needed to move to intensive care he told an aide that Dominic Raab should deputise for him.

He is still conscious

https://twitter.com/Steven_Swinford/status/1247248538184159232 
Quantum
06 April 2020 19:46:59


 


That, at least, is some comfort. 


I'm surprised by some of the comments because I don't think he's under any illusion about how lethal this can be, as he has seen the numbers and the government policy changed as a result.


Hopefully it will be a wake up call for some of the idiots still thinking it's just a virus but I'm afraid there'll still be a minority looking to score petty political points over his misfortune, whatever the outcome.


 


Fingers (and everything else) crossed that he responds to the treatment. But i think it must be clear now that he is in no position to lead the government and won't be for some time.


Originally Posted by: Gandalf The White 


It's possible that mentally he is all there. Alot of people, even with the severe form, have far more of their mental faculties about them than someone with regular flu.


I'm not disagreeing with you though, because physically this must all be taking its toll. He needs to rest.


 

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Gandalf The White
06 April 2020 19:49:10

Our PM lies at death's door.
Over 5,000 of our countrymen dead.
This 'mess' all created by China.
Heard anything from them? Looked after themselves while the world buries and cremates its dead, tens of millions of jobs lost, economies lost for years, and they are buying up shares at a knock down price. They are opening up for business again and will mop up everything.

I had a dream last night about WW3 because the world revolted against China (and North Korea) who never put any of the wrongs right.
I am feeling very angry at the moment how that country has put the world in this position.

Originally Posted by: Phil G 


I have held the same view for some weeks now. The trouble is that people have short memories and will most likely go back to buying stuff stamped 'Made in China'. I was reading some of the financial press at the weekend and money is already going back into China - and pouring out of the US - so the markets are expecting nothing to change to any marked degree, if at all.


All it needs is for people to boycott anything made in China but that will be incredibly difficult. For a start almost no smart phones or computers.

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SJV
06 April 2020 19:51:44


That, at least, is some comfort. 


I'm surprised by some of the comments because I don't think he's under any illusion about how lethal this can be, as he has seen the numbers and the government policy changed as a result.


Originally Posted by: Gandalf The White 


Just to clarify, my comment wasn't meant to infer Boris wasn't taking it seriously enough before he was laid low with the virus, more that he might have a different perspective having lived through the worst of it.


David M Porter
06 April 2020 19:51:46

My own view is that the events of this evening have made the likelihood of a GNU greater than was the case before.


Whatever I and others have said about the way the government responded to the coming of this virus at the outset, I think all politicians need to put their usual differences to one side and come together for the common good. Winston Churchill led a cross-party government during WW2, and I think we are getting ever closer to that now.

Lenzie, Glasgow

"Let us not take ourselves too seriously. None of us has a monopoly on wisdom, and we must always be ready to listen and respect other points of view."- Queen Elizabeth II 1926-2022
Gandalf The White
06 April 2020 19:52:21


 


It's possible that mentally he is all there. Alot of people, even with the severe form, have far more of their mental faculties about them than someone with regular flu.


I'm not disagreeing with you though, because physically this must all be taking its toll. He needs to rest.


 


Originally Posted by: Quantum 


Yes, it was the physical side to which I was referring. You have only to look at former prime ministers to realise the incredible strain that goes with the job. He could still be bright as the proverbial button but if he has almost no energy or stamina his role will be very limited - and you don't want to risk a relapse by putting a weakened body under unnecessary stress.


I keep thinking how absolutely awful this must be for his pregnant fiancé. 

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The Beast from the East
06 April 2020 19:52:37

Our PM lies at death's door.
Over 5,000 of our countrymen dead.
This 'mess' all created by China.
Heard anything from them? Looked after themselves while the world buries and cremates its dead, tens of millions of jobs lost, economies lost for years, and they are buying up shares at a knock down price. They are opening up for business again and will mop up everything.

I had a dream last night about WW3 because the world revolted against China (and North Korea) who never put any of the wrongs right.
I am feeling very angry at the moment how that country has put the world in this position.

Originally Posted by: Phil G 



People don't understand why Trump remains so popular. Its partly because he is not afraid to take on these Chinese monsters who eat Bats and Pangolins


He was right to call it a "Chinese Flu"

"We have some alternative facts for you"
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Polar Low
06 April 2020 19:53:08

Yes it can be used it does not always need a license that drug also already has a established safety profile as long as consent is given (compassionate use) it  is ok weather it is effective no one is sure


I might also add my boy was also on a couple on unlicensed drugs during his very dark days.



 


Not if it hasn't been cleared for use.


I have seen, though, Doctors in America using untested drugs on themselves (most notably HCQ).


 


Originally Posted by: Quantum 

Bugglesgate
06 April 2020 19:54:00

It's increasingly like   living through some "B" movie plot. 


This, without a shadow of a doubt, is the most worrying time  I have lived through  (well, OK, there was the Cuban missile crisis but being less than 1 I don't really count that !).


I'm afraid I'm also pretty mad at China  for allowing those god damned awful markets to carry on - even without this, slaughtering endangered species is beyond the pale.


 


 


 

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Gandalf The White
06 April 2020 19:54:26


 


Just to clarify, my comment wasn't meant to infer Boris wasn't taking it seriously enough before he was laid low with the virus, more that he might have a different perspective having lived through the worst of it.



Originally Posted by: SJV 


That comment wasn't aimed at anyone in particular.


🙂

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Joe Bloggs
06 April 2020 19:56:12

This is definitely like living through a film. The situation is totally mad. 


I hope he pulls through. This virus is so, so frightening. 


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Gavin D
06 April 2020 19:56:20

Gandalf The White
06 April 2020 19:58:25


It's increasingly like   living through some "B" movie plot. 


This, without a shadow of a doubt, is the most worrying time  I have lived through  (well, OK, there was the Cuban missile crisis but being less than 1 I don't really count that !).


I'm afraid I'm also pretty mad at China  for allowing those god damned awful markets to carry on - even without this, slaughtering endangered species is beyond the pale.


 


Originally Posted by: Bugglesgate 


But it was the bureaucracy denying there was a problem that was arguably a greater failing. That cost at least a month and God knows how many more people became infected and travelled around the world in that time. Then there were the denials about person to person transmission which exacerbated the initial incompetence.


If the rumours are true that the Chinese have been busy buying shares at knock down prices caused by the pandemic then I really would have a serious sense of humour failure. 

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fairweather
06 April 2020 19:58:28

Local online paper saying no new virus deaths recorded here in Essex in the last 24 hours.

Originally Posted by: Phil G 


Evening Echo? 

S.Essex, 42m ASL
Phil G
06 April 2020 19:59:45


 


Evening Echo? 


Originally Posted by: fairweather 


Yep that's it.

doctormog
06 April 2020 19:59:46




Originally Posted by: Gavin D 


I assume Sky meant to say intubated unless there is a novel therapeutic approach? 

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Lionel Hutz
06 April 2020 20:00:55


My own view is that the events of this evening have made the likelihood of a GNU greater than was the case before.


Whatever I and others have said about the way the government responded to the coming of this virus at the outset, I think all politicians need to put their usual differences to one side and come together for the common good. Winston Churchill led a cross-party government during WW2, and I think we are getting ever closer to that now.


Originally Posted by: David M Porter 


Actually, a GNU is the last thing that you need in my opinion. Would disparate parties work well together in government? Hardly. With the best will in the world, there would be deep divisions from the start. Also, Labour have now been out of power for years and lack experience. Is now the right time to have a chunk of the government learning on the job?

Lionel Hutz
Nr.Waterford , S E Ireland
68m ASL



llamedos
06 April 2020 20:04:19


 


I assume Sky meant to say intubated unless there is a novel therapeutic approach? 


Originally Posted by: doctormog 

"Life with the Lions"

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xioni2
06 April 2020 20:05:49

Sad news about Boris, I hope he makes it. If he goes on a ventilator, then his prognosis is 50/50 or even worse because of his physical state.


I still remember him saying (in his usual jovial way) how he was shaking all hands at a hospital with CV19 cases in early March (I am not saying this is how he got it).

Chidog
06 April 2020 20:07:58

I know the disease could have originated elsewhere, but it's not like there wasn't a warning. SARS Mark 1 was a coronavirus. Bat's are know to carry various coronaviruses. Solution = stop fking eating bats and things that associate with them! It's not like most of the people eating these species would be starving if they declined it, unlike the ebola-causing bushmeat in poor areas of Africa

Brian Gaze
06 April 2020 20:08:11


Hopefully it will be a wake up call for some of the idiots still thinking it's just a virus but I'm afraid there'll still be a minority looking to score petty political points over his misfortune, whatever the outcome.


Originally Posted by: Gandalf The White 


 


 

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Gooner
06 April 2020 20:09:42


 


Just to clarify, my comment wasn't meant to infer Boris wasn't taking it seriously enough before he was laid low with the virus, more that he might have a different perspective having lived through the worst of it.



Originally Posted by: SJV 


Life changing moments can often cause a pause for thought and  reassess 

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