I would guess his probably on around 5 litres of oxygen with a sniff of nitric oxide gas to try to dilate his lungs there will be no panic in rushing to use a ventilator if not required as it’s not taken lightly as it has induced risk also it can be quite difficult sometimes to get one off one as the body has to not only stronger enough but also to remember it has to do it alone it all takes time with time bringing increase in risk of infection.

its a form of life support that is not taken lightly.

This is not a helpful attitude to have. I may dislike the Chinese regime and hate what many Chinese people do with animals and also believe that China has a lot to answer for the way it handled the virus in the first month or so (it might never had become a pandemic, had they locked down Wuhan earlier), but the above makes it sound like it's all their fault.

It isn't all their fault, they addressed the epidemic from late January onwards and they communicated a lot of useful information to the rest of the world, so other countries get ready for it.

Also propaganda or not, they have donated plenty of ventilators to various states, the New York Governor said that the 1000 ventilators donated by China will save thousands American lives. Where were we in the West when China needed help?

Oh, and I hope Boris pulls through this. I'm unexpectedly shaken by the news he's in ICU and deteriorating. 

Ditto. 

I thought the ol'  b'stard was pretty invincible

According to this article Boris Johsnon has never been ill and has a robust constitution. Illustrates why I keep saying this is like playing Russian Roulette. 

He has issues with illness, says his biographer and best selling author Sonia Purnell, who worked alongside him in The Telegraph's Brussels office in the early 1990s.

"He has a very weird attitude to illness," she said on Monday. "He was intolerant of anybody who was ill. Until now, he has had a very robust constitution. He has never been ill until now, and this will be a huge shock to him. His outlook on the world is that illness is for weak people."

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2020/04/06/inside-story-boris-johnsons-coronavirus-battle/

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Boris Johnson: Medic explains what the move to ICU means

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As Prime Minister Boris Johnson is admitted to an intensive care unit, a chief medic explains what being in ICU means and why he is in there. Professor Paul Hunter explains that if a patient is placed in an intensive care unit, it means they are "very sick", for example a patient is struggling to breathe by themselves or maintain their cardiovascular system.

It is when "you need a lot of nursing and technical care to keep you going," the professor said. Professor Hunter said that for people who go into intensive care with Covid-19 the average time people spend there is four or five days, although there is "considerable variation."

"Whether you survive or not you tend to be in intensive care for an average of four to five days."

Professor Hunter explained that those in ICU have their body closely monitored and if they worsened, they are provided with organ support in the form of a ventilator. He added only one in five patients in ICU require kidney dialysis. "One of the things about Covid-19 is often people deteriorate very slowly and you can actually start off and be quite well for a week or so and then find it quite difficult to breathe... and if you continue to deteriorate you may need to go on to ventilation," he explained.

Professor Hunter also pointed out that often and usually the body's defence systems win against the virus and people ultimately recover.

 

https://www.lbcnews.co.uk/uk-news/boris-johnson-medic-explains-move-icu/

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Both myself and Cheryl feel the same. He is an idiot but we really hope he is OK

Of those aged 50-69 (Boris is 55) - 168 (54.2%) were released from ICU whilst 142 (45.8%) passed away

I guess there might have been some precautionary aspect in moving him to ICU, so his real chance of survival could be better. It would make sense to have different standards for the PM.

looks around 50/50. BMI could be factor.  

Tell Spotted Dick that

If that was the case I would have thought it would have been HDU at this time probably reserved for the like of us.

Spotted Dick?

You said that he was on a ventilator this morning according to your source. That was a lie and that is what I was referring to 

Yes Brian and it will make him a better man it is very different when it is you he has family he will look at his life again and realise what is so important I really do hope he has the chance to do that and change his personal outlook a little better.

If he goes on a proper ventilator, then he might stay there for 2-3 weeks and if he then makes it, then his return could coincide with the drop in cases and deaths nationally. I hope he never needs to be fully ventilated anyway.

I still think there was some truth in the report.

Interesting comment by Whitty. Suggests the Oxford study has been discounted or at least the conclusions it drew considered improbable.  

Because of the slow way antibodies are generated and the relatively small percentage of the population likely to have caught coronavirus so far, the tests are currently of limited use, he told the daily press conference. [Source: Daily Mail]

There has been an avalanche of criticism of that study in the scientific community. The gfs pub run is usually more reliable.

No it wasn’t. 

I had 9 days in ICU last year.  I was completely out of it during intubation - I have no recollection of that reality - tho at some stages the brain was in overdrive on some other planet.    The latter stages of support - pressurised oxygen mask ventilator - with hot oxygen - was not pleasant at all.  ICU teams are brilliant - can't praise them too much.  Once I started to resume normal life I could see and appreciate what they do - Boris will be in very good hands. 

Roger

yes it was, there are zero reliable reports  that he was on a ventilator this morning. All the news outlets and government sources are saying that he was moved to an ICU this afternoon, and there is still no indication that he is on a ventilator. I would suspect that he will be though at some stage.

To put a positive spin on that statement there must have been some marvellous recoveries normally kidney support in this position is due to the infection in the lungs  eventually weakening the heart thus the heart can’t maintain enough blood pressure to drive the kidneys in this position the kidneys would wait for further confirmation from the heart if everything is going to be ok if not I need a machine to do it for me.

To think that humans are and will be saved from this point is Bloody marvellous.

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Boris Johnson: Medic explains what the move to ICU means

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As Prime Minister Boris Johnson is admitted to an intensive care unit, a chief medic explains what being in ICU means and why he is in there. Professor Paul Hunter explains that if a patient is placed in an intensive care unit, it means they are "very sick", for example a patient is struggling to breathe by themselves or maintain their cardiovascular system.

It is when "you need a lot of nursing and technical care to keep you going," the professor said. Professor Hunter said that for people who go into intensive care with Covid-19 the average time people spend there is four or five days, although there is "considerable variation."

"Whether you survive or not you tend to be in intensive care for an average of four to five days."

Professor Hunter explained that those in ICU have their body closely monitored and if they worsened, they are provided with organ support in the form of a ventilator. He added only one in five patients in ICU require kidney dialysis. "One of the things about Covid-19 is often people deteriorate very slowly and you can actually start off and be quite well for a week or so and then find it quite difficult to breathe... and if you continue to deteriorate you may need to go on to ventilation," he explained.

Professor Hunter also pointed out that often and usually the body's defence systems win against the virus and people ultimately recover.

 

https://www.lbcnews.co.uk/uk-news/boris-johnson-medic-explains-move-icu/

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