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Northern Sky
07 April 2020 15:46:02


 


I wouldn`t hold your breath on the antibody test,seems a long way off yet.


Originally Posted by: springsunshine 


It does and without it, it seems a difficult job even starting to get back to normality.

Quantum
07 April 2020 15:48:05

There have either been 4344 or 9740 tests conducted today.


Today's daily increase of 3634 is put in a rather dramatically different context depending which one it is.


 


2024/2025 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp): Total: 3 days with snow/sleet falling
18/11 (-6), 19/11 (-6), 23/11 (-2)
2023/2024 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp): Total: 8 days with snow/sleet falling
29/11 (-6), 30/11 (-6), 02/12 (-5), 03/12 (-5), 04/12 (-3), 16/01 (-3), 18/01 (-8), 08/02 (-5)
2022/2023 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp): Total: 7 days with snow/sleet falling.
18/12 (-1), 06/03 (-6), 08/03 (-8), 09/03 (-6), 10/03 (-8), 11/03 (-5), 14/03 (-6)
2021/2022 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp): Total: 12 days with snow/sleet falling.
26/11 (-5), 27/11 (-7), 28/11 (-6), 02/12 (-6), 06/01 (-5), 07/01 (-6), 06/02 (-5), 19/02 (-5), 24/02 (-7), 30/03 (-7), 31/03 (-8), 01/04 (-8)
xioni2
07 April 2020 15:49:15

If contagion is much more limited than we think (say 100-500k people have it now or had it in the past), I think that'd be both good news and bad news:-



  • good, because a test, trace and isolate strategy would be easier and more effective

  • bad, because if the above doesn't happen there is still a huge reservoir of hosts available to the virus

Northern Sky
07 April 2020 15:49:52


The numbers make absolutely no sense


Originally Posted by: Quantum 


Q, you made quite a downbeat post yesterday saying things looked grim. I meant to ask you at the time why you thought that but didn't get round to it. Was there a particular reason you thought/think that?

Quantum
07 April 2020 15:52:12

No JFF model update today until this is straightened out.


At least one figure coming out today is wrong, the numbers make absolutely no sense.


Only 4344 people being tested conducted today sounds like the dodgy figure, in which case it seems like someone has added up the cumulative figure incorrectly.


 


2024/2025 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp): Total: 3 days with snow/sleet falling
18/11 (-6), 19/11 (-6), 23/11 (-2)
2023/2024 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp): Total: 8 days with snow/sleet falling
29/11 (-6), 30/11 (-6), 02/12 (-5), 03/12 (-5), 04/12 (-3), 16/01 (-3), 18/01 (-8), 08/02 (-5)
2022/2023 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp): Total: 7 days with snow/sleet falling.
18/12 (-1), 06/03 (-6), 08/03 (-8), 09/03 (-6), 10/03 (-8), 11/03 (-5), 14/03 (-6)
2021/2022 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp): Total: 12 days with snow/sleet falling.
26/11 (-5), 27/11 (-7), 28/11 (-6), 02/12 (-6), 06/01 (-5), 07/01 (-6), 06/02 (-5), 19/02 (-5), 24/02 (-7), 30/03 (-7), 31/03 (-8), 01/04 (-8)
Quantum
07 April 2020 15:54:52


 


Q, you made quite a downbeat post yesterday saying things looked grim. I meant to ask you at the time why you thought that but didn't get round to it. Was there a particular reason you thought/think that?


Originally Posted by: Northern Sky 


I was referring to Boris's condition. It does look more optimistic today though given he is still not on invasive ventilation. The problem is once you get into ICU your odds are around 50:50. I was particularly worried since Boris seemed to be deterorating rapidly. Since then it seems to have become apparant he was moved to ICU more as a prophalatic measure rather than him actually needing to be there. That's definitely a good thing.


 


2024/2025 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp): Total: 3 days with snow/sleet falling
18/11 (-6), 19/11 (-6), 23/11 (-2)
2023/2024 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp): Total: 8 days with snow/sleet falling
29/11 (-6), 30/11 (-6), 02/12 (-5), 03/12 (-5), 04/12 (-3), 16/01 (-3), 18/01 (-8), 08/02 (-5)
2022/2023 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp): Total: 7 days with snow/sleet falling.
18/12 (-1), 06/03 (-6), 08/03 (-8), 09/03 (-6), 10/03 (-8), 11/03 (-5), 14/03 (-6)
2021/2022 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp): Total: 12 days with snow/sleet falling.
26/11 (-5), 27/11 (-7), 28/11 (-6), 02/12 (-6), 06/01 (-5), 07/01 (-6), 06/02 (-5), 19/02 (-5), 24/02 (-7), 30/03 (-7), 31/03 (-8), 01/04 (-8)
Quantum
07 April 2020 15:58:14

My suspicion is the 213181 figure is garbage and someone added them up wrong.


9740 sounds more realistic than 4344.


 


2024/2025 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp): Total: 3 days with snow/sleet falling
18/11 (-6), 19/11 (-6), 23/11 (-2)
2023/2024 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp): Total: 8 days with snow/sleet falling
29/11 (-6), 30/11 (-6), 02/12 (-5), 03/12 (-5), 04/12 (-3), 16/01 (-3), 18/01 (-8), 08/02 (-5)
2022/2023 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp): Total: 7 days with snow/sleet falling.
18/12 (-1), 06/03 (-6), 08/03 (-8), 09/03 (-6), 10/03 (-8), 11/03 (-5), 14/03 (-6)
2021/2022 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp): Total: 12 days with snow/sleet falling.
26/11 (-5), 27/11 (-7), 28/11 (-6), 02/12 (-6), 06/01 (-5), 07/01 (-6), 06/02 (-5), 19/02 (-5), 24/02 (-7), 30/03 (-7), 31/03 (-8), 01/04 (-8)
xioni2
07 April 2020 16:05:37


 Occasionally I have thought he is going to do the right thing. A few hours later he invariably contradicts himself and it is back to square one. He seems totally unsuited to being President and I agree it is utterly depressing!


Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 


The first report that Trump got on CV19 was on 29 January 2020 and it mentioned up to half a million deaths in the US.

Heavy Weather 2013
07 April 2020 16:06:08


My suspicion is the 213181 figure is garbage and someone added them up wrong.


9740 sounds more realistic than 4344.


 


Originally Posted by: Quantum 


Deaths also do not make sense. Unless I am confused.


Apparently there were +74 deaths announced in Scotland and +758 in England so am confused why the UK figure is 786. There was also +3 in NI and +19 in Wales.


Would this not make the UK total: 854


 


 


Mark
Beckton, E London
Less than 500m from the end of London City Airport runway.
Gavin D
07 April 2020 16:06:45
Dominic Raab: PM in a stable condition and remains in good spirits
xioni2
07 April 2020 16:08:03


 Deaths also do not make sense. Unless I am confused.


Apparently there were +74 deaths announced in Scotland and +758 in England so am confused why the UK figure is 786. There was also +3 in NI and +19 in Wales.


Would this not make the UK total: 854


 

Originally Posted by: Heavy Weather 2013 


There is often a discrepancy between the 2 totals.

Gavin D
07 April 2020 16:11:19
1,900 patients in clinical trials in hospitals

CSO: 1 week or so until we can be sure if we're flattening the curve

Hospital admissions up 2% nationally things possibly starting to flatten off
ozone_aurora
07 April 2020 16:14:38

Hear a lot of traffic on the main road out behind my property today & yesterday.

PS: Hope Boris recovers from this virus. 

Heavy Weather 2013
07 April 2020 16:15:08

1,900 patients in clinical trials in hospitals

CSO: 1 week or so until we can be sure if we're flattening the curve

Hospital admissions up 2% nationally things possibly starting to flatten off

Originally Posted by: Gavin D 


Sounds to me that Lockdown will continue well into April


Mark
Beckton, E London
Less than 500m from the end of London City Airport runway.
The Beast from the East
07 April 2020 16:15:54

The actress, Lee Fierro, who played the mother of the boy that was killed by the shark in Jaws has died from COVID-19.

Originally Posted by: KevBrads1 


Interesting how certain movie characters are forever etched in your memory, even though you couldn't name them


I remember exactly what she looked like and I haven't seen a repeat of Jaws perhaps for 20 years


The Lawyer in Jurassic Park who got eaten whilst sitting on the toilet is another one!


 


 


Purley, Surrey, 70m ASL

"We have some alternative facts for you"

Kelly-Ann Conway - former special adviser to the President
Gavin D
07 April 2020 16:16:06
Sir Patrick Vallance: "It is possible we are seeing the beginning of a change in terms of the curve flattening, but we won't know for a week or so."
The Beast from the East
07 April 2020 16:18:42


 


Sounds to me that Lockdown will continue well into April


Originally Posted by: Heavy Weather 2013 


That's to be expected, but we must end it by the end of the month. 


The economic and mental damage to the nation will by this time start outstripping the effects of the virus itself


What about normal health conditions that are being ignored? Cancers going undiagnosed? Rotting teeth because dentists are closed?


We cant carry on like this for much longer


We must get Britain moving again!


 


Purley, Surrey, 70m ASL

"We have some alternative facts for you"

Kelly-Ann Conway - former special adviser to the President
The Beast from the East
07 April 2020 16:19:49

Sir Patrick Vallance: "It is possible we are seeing the beginning of a change in terms of the curve flattening, but we won't know for a week or so."

Originally Posted by: Gavin D 


Excellent news. 


 


Purley, Surrey, 70m ASL

"We have some alternative facts for you"

Kelly-Ann Conway - former special adviser to the President
Gavin D
07 April 2020 16:22:15

Italy have reported 3,039 new cases and 604 new deaths



  • New cases down 560

  • New deaths down 32

warrenb
07 April 2020 16:22:48
Think Rabb is doing OK.
Whether Idle
07 April 2020 16:25:26

Think Rabb is doing OK.

Originally Posted by: warrenb 


Good, I was concerned he would bottle it.  This is good news.


Dover, 5m asl. Half a mile from the south coast.
The Beast from the East
07 April 2020 16:25:45


Italy have reported 3,039 new cases and 604 new deaths



  • New cases down 560

  • New deaths down 32


Originally Posted by: Gavin D 


Brilliant news. They can end the lockdown. We are only a few weeks behind!


Purley, Surrey, 70m ASL

"We have some alternative facts for you"

Kelly-Ann Conway - former special adviser to the President
speckledjim
07 April 2020 16:26:57


Italy have reported 3,039 new cases and 604 new deaths



  • New cases down 560

  • New deaths down 32


Originally Posted by: Gavin D 


If ever there was a country that needs a break it’s Italy 🇮🇹 🇮🇹🇮🇹🇮🇹🇮🇹👍👍👍


Thorner, West Yorkshire


Journalism is organised gossip
The Beast from the East
07 April 2020 16:27:20

How many deaths will result from this? The cure must never be worse than the disease


 




Purley, Surrey, 70m ASL

"We have some alternative facts for you"

Kelly-Ann Conway - former special adviser to the President
Whether Idle
07 April 2020 16:29:36


 


Brilliant news. They can end the lockdown. We are only a few weeks behind!


Originally Posted by: The Beast from the East 


Ending the lockdown there now would effectively be culling thousands more lives!  


Dover, 5m asl. Half a mile from the south coast.

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