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KevBrads1
07 April 2020 14:51:47
The actress, Lee Fierro, who played the mother of the boy that was killed by the shark in Jaws has died from COVID-19.
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Chichesterweatherfan2
07 April 2020 14:56:57


The virus loves religious types - they provide it with all the opportunities it needs (whatever the faith) - now we have the Bishop of Rochester urging the spread of the virus  (from the Telegraph):


"Open the churches for Easter – and give people hope





Michael Nazir-Ali shares on the profound psychological consequences of the lockdown and not being able to go to church. 


...


At the very least, we should be providing, rather than withdrawing, resources for strengthening and supporting people’s faith at this time. It is such a pity, then, that churches, and other places of worship, are not open for prayer. If it is true that church leaders themselves requested that they be closed down, now is the time to undo this mistake."


What he really means is: Open the churches for Easter – and give people COVID-19.


 





Originally Posted by: Maunder Minimum 


 


the other side of the coin to this, MM is that many, many churches, including ours.. have moved completely on line... we  here in Chichester are a large church with a regular congregation of over 400 people... the overwhelming majority of churches would be 100% supportive of following the Govt's guidelines.. This week is difficult of course as it is Easter and our church would be full to overflowing, literally, as we celebrate the resurrection of Jesus Christ... Our buildings this weekend will be firmly locked.. and we will instead be following on line teaching and worship.. and a lot in our congregation will be helping neighbours and friends who are self isolation etc etc....Our church leaders  would not be  campaigning for the relaxation of the lockdown  until the evidence points to the fact that it would be safe to do so...

Retron
07 April 2020 14:57:00

The actress, Lee Fierro, who played the mother of the boy that was killed by the shark in Jaws has died from COVID-19.

Originally Posted by: KevBrads1 


Aged 91. She had a good innings!


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Saint Snow
07 April 2020 14:57:27


The virus loves religious types - they provide it with all the opportunities it needs (whatever the faith) - now we have the Bishop of Rochester urging the spread of the virus  (from the Telegraph):


"Open the churches for Easter – and give people hope





Michael Nazir-Ali shares on the profound psychological consequences of the lockdown and not being able to go to church. 


...


At the very least, we should be providing, rather than withdrawing, resources for strengthening and supporting people’s faith at this time. It is such a pity, then, that churches, and other places of worship, are not open for prayer. If it is true that church leaders themselves requested that they be closed down, now is the time to undo this mistake."


What he really means is: Open the churches for Easter – and give people COVID-19.


 





Originally Posted by: Maunder Minimum 


 


Perhaps Darwinism in action...?


Get rid of those with the redundant 'belief gene'?



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Saint Snow
07 April 2020 15:03:44


 


We are burning down their 5G masts. That'll teach em


Originally Posted by: The Beast from the East 


 


On this subject of dickheadery, I see David Icke has jumped on the whack-job conspiracy theory bandwagon, too. Amongst his claims:


"If 5G continues and reaches where they want to take it, human life as we know it is over... so people have to make a decision."


A coronavirus vaccine, when one is developed, will include "nanotechnology microchips" that would allow humans to be controlled. He added that Bill Gates - who is helping fund Covid-19 vaccine research - should be jailed.


 


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-52198946



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07 April 2020 15:06:36


 


Indeed. As Phil said last night in the previous thread, the Chinese should have moved to close their borders with all neighbouring countries thereby allowing no-one in & out of their own country once they had established with some certainty what the problem was and once they knew that this virus was a danger to life. It was their failure to do this which then led to it spreading to so many other countries in a relatively short period of time and has led the world to the god awful situation it is now in.


Originally Posted by: David M Porter 

The WHO only confirmed human to human transmission of the virus on 21st January.  By that time it had already spread to several other countries.  Closing borders was already too late. 


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07 April 2020 15:09:58
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Chunky Pea
07 April 2020 15:12:26


 


 


the other side of the coin to this, MM is that many, many churches, including ours.. have moved completely on line... we  here in Chichester are a large church with a regular congregation of over 400 people... the overwhelming majority of churches would be 100% supportive of following the Govt's guidelines.. This week is difficult of course as it is Easter and our church would be full to overflowing, literally, as we celebrate the resurrection of Jesus Christ... Our buildings this weekend will be firmly locked.. and we will instead be following on line teaching and worship.. and a lot in our congregation will be helping neighbours and friends who are self isolation etc etc....Our church leaders  would not be  campaigning for the relaxation of the lockdown  until the evidence points to the fact that it would be safe to do so...


Originally Posted by: Chichesterweatherfan2 


Your post reminded me of this tweet a couple of weeks back which gave me a good giggle:


 https://twitter.com/KiwiEV/status/1242267839236583427


 


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Chichesterweatherfan2
07 April 2020 15:14:04


 


Your post reminded me of this tweet a couple of weeks back which gave me a good giggle:


 https://twitter.com/KiwiEV/status/1242267839236583427


 


Originally Posted by: Chunky Pea 


 


HI CP.. me too! - that is very funny 🙂 :)

westv
07 April 2020 15:23:15

Reports yesterday of tigers contracting Covid19.


Should I be worried about my wife's pussy?


At least it will be mild!
Saint Snow
07 April 2020 15:28:18


Reports yesterday of tigers contracting Covid19.


Should I be worried about my wife's pussy?


Originally Posted by: westv 


 


Only if it coughs on your face



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Gavin D
07 April 2020 15:28:45

3,634 new cases from a record 14,006 tests


 


New cases down signs the lockdown is working?

warrenb
07 April 2020 15:29:13


 


 


Only if it coughs on your face


Originally Posted by: Saint Snow 


 


First time I have laughed out loud at a post for quite a while.


Saint Snow
07 April 2020 15:32:13


The WHO only confirmed human to human transmission of the virus on 21st January.  By that time it had already spread to several other countries.  Closing borders was already too late. 


Originally Posted by: Caz 


 


The point is, doctors/scientists in Wuhan studying this 'new illness' had worked out it could be transmitted human to human by the beginning of Jan at the latest. But local/regional CCP officials covered it up and lied.



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Rob K
07 April 2020 15:33:19


 


 


Only if it coughs on your face


Originally Posted by: Saint Snow 


Now that did give me a much-needed laugh!


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xioni2
07 April 2020 15:33:40

3,634 new cases from a record 14,006 tests

Originally Posted by: Gavin D 


If all those tested had already developed symptoms, that shows how limited the contagion must really be around the country. The vast majority of the population still hasn't got it.

speckledjim
07 April 2020 15:33:45


 


 


the other side of the coin to this, MM is that many, many churches, including ours.. have moved completely on line... we  here in Chichester are a large church with a regular congregation of over 400 people... the overwhelming majority of churches would be 100% supportive of following the Govt's guidelines.. This week is difficult of course as it is Easter and our church would be full to overflowing, literally, as we celebrate the resurrection of Jesus Christ... Our buildings this weekend will be firmly locked.. and we will instead be following on line teaching and worship.. and a lot in our congregation will be helping neighbours and friends who are self isolation etc etc....Our church leaders  would not be  campaigning for the relaxation of the lockdown  until the evidence points to the fact that it would be safe to do so...


Originally Posted by: Chichesterweatherfan2 


Its important that places of worship remain closed and I feel should be one of the last places to be removed from lockdown. There is clear evidence from across the globe that they are particular hotspots along with nursing homes and hospitals.


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Heavy Weather 2013
07 April 2020 15:36:15


 


If all those tested had already developed symptoms, that shows how limited the contagion must really be around the country. The vast majority of the population still hasn't got it.


Originally Posted by: xioni2 


Apparently data for Leeds, Manchester and NI haven’t been included in the tests results so not sure whether that has impacted the numbers or not


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springsunshine
07 April 2020 15:36:23


 



Of course it was David - even Professor Neil Ferguson admitted as much on the Andrew Marr show - I quote:


"people were flying in and spreading the virus".


Could not be much clearer than that.


Originally Posted by: Maunder Minimum 


The foreign office did say yesterday,i think, they are stopping all non essential travel indefinatly.


A wise move,albeit far too late! I would imagine a lot of countries will have their flight restrictions in place for a long long time.

Northern Sky
07 April 2020 15:38:19


 


If all those tested had already developed symptoms, that shows how limited the contagion must really be around the country. The vast majority of the population still hasn't got it.


Originally Posted by: xioni2 


Or many people may have already had it? We just don't know until a reliable antibody test is available.

bowser
07 April 2020 15:41:23


The WHO only confirmed human to human transmission of the virus on 21st January.  By that time it had already spread to several other countries.  Closing borders was already too late. 


Originally Posted by: Caz 


I think there was a catalogue of errors / cover ups at the beginning. I wonder if the WHO take the words of an African dictatorship at face value?

springsunshine
07 April 2020 15:43:08


 


Or many people may have already had it? We just don't know until a reliable antibody test is available.


Originally Posted by: Northern Sky 


I wouldn`t hold your breath on the antibody test,seems a long way off yet.

xioni2
07 April 2020 15:43:44


 Or many people may have already had it? We just don't know until a reliable antibody test is available.


Originally Posted by: Northern Sky 


Possibly, but I don't think so. The pattern of hospital infections and number of deaths is very similar in many countries and it is closely associated with the number of infections. I remember from the WHO report on China, the team made several random tests of people in Wuhan (!) in February and they just couldn't find many positives.


 

Quantum
07 April 2020 15:45:32

The numbers make absolutely no sense today.



Total people tested: 213181


Daily increase: 4344


But daily increase listed explicitly as 9740


 


So which is it?!


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Brian Gaze
07 April 2020 15:45:36


 


 


Yes - two points on this



  • The long term goal of China (global dominance through resource control, economic expansion, currency manipulation, divide and conquer on the the west etc. etc. ) has been obvious for years. But far as I can tell there has been no coordinated thinking or policy on how to counter it while accepting China as a major world player (which it now is whether we like it or not). Proper strategic thinking on this is needed now. Perhaps this virus will be the trigger for it.


  • Trump has missed a huge opportunity on COVID-19. The US could have stood up, offered global leadership in resources, aid, research, logistics and so on. This would have recovered a vast amount of the goodwill he's lost under traditional allies in the last few years and would at a stroke have restored much of the US's reputation as the de facto world superpower and leader. But no, he's more worried about slagging off CNN, getting his son-in-law on the telly and stopping face-mask exports to Canada . Utterly depressing - the man seems incapable of any thinking beyond short term point scoring


 


Originally Posted by: pfw 


Occasionally I have thought he is going to do the right thing. A few hours later he invariably contradicts himself and it is back to square one. He seems totally unsuited to being President and I agree it is utterly depressing!


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