There could be many reasons. Some which would be good to know and some we have no right to know. Perhaps if they had the choice of dying in a hospital ward or what was their current home they may choose the latter. I don’t doubt the spare capacity based on the situation in the Nightingale hospitals.

Originally Posted by: doctormog 

I read the posts earlier on regarding the number of real cases (not just reported cases) as a percent of population. It really would be nice to know this although I understand how difficult it is to find out, may of minor note that with the number of cases having now gone up c. 5,000 to c. 74,000, and the UK population being 66 million, this means that we have gone just over 0.1% of the population having officially tested positive. We all know that there are more cases than officially reported and that it is generally only the hospitalisations which are getting tested rather than the more minor/asymptomatic cases - if what I have read is true then 1% of the population having tested positive seems believeable. A figure of, say, 10% rather less so unless there are a lot more asymptomatic cases than are currently thought. This is all just me speculating but just thought it may be of some interest.

Regarding people thinking they have it and testing negative. I think that most bugs will cover some of the common covid-19 symptoms and, with the number of deaths being reported, people will likely be worried that they have covid-19 whereas normally they may just carry on with their everyday life and not really think twice about their slight temperature/cough. One of my housemates told us she had mild symptoms of covid-19 but it turned out to be hay fever...

Originally Posted by: JHutch 

I think the death rates are more indicative because they are real numbers, If the fatality rate is 2% or so, which I think looks likely, and we have 8000 deaths, it would follow that about 400,000 people are (or have been ) infected.

Originally Posted by: Ulric 

Brian, have you noticed in the government briefing UK appears to be doing better than all other European countries

Originally Posted by: Heavy Weather 2013 

Appologies, could you post the link again?

I started incoperating number of tests a while back after it became clear 100% of testing capacity was being used.

Originally Posted by: Quantum 

Maybe, but it depends on what the fatality rate is, have seen quite a range of figures given. I think Whitty or Vallance at one point suggested it was 0.1% although that does seem to have been an extreme.

Originally Posted by: JHutch 

Former Liverpool player and manager Kenny Dalglish has tested positive for coronavirus. Kenny is hospital but is showing no symptoms at present.

Originally Posted by: Gavin D 

Former Liverpool player and manager Kenny Dalglish has tested positive for coronavirus. Kenny is hospital but is showing no symptoms at present.

Originally Posted by: Gavin D 

Why is he in hospital if he’s showing no symptoms? I’m sure you don’t have the answer but that makes no sense

just found the answer, he was already there for another condition 

Originally Posted by: speckledjim 

 Strange? Why is he in hospital then?

Originally Posted by: Heavy Weather 2013 

Questions

1. Why don’t the government report on deaths in care homes.

2. If our hospital admissions and critical care are not at capacity, why is our death rate looking like exceeding Italy and other European countries

3. Why does it feel like their is a collective daily whitewash of some of the most critical issues.

Originally Posted by: Heavy Weather 2013 

Yeh but only 13k tested, some people tested twice I think.

Originally Posted by: Quantum 

I’ve just blown my top, out in the street. Shouted at strangers. 

My partner and I were going for our daily walk, this time to Platt Fields park in south Manchester. Being as careful as we possibly can be, as we are always are. 

We were on a particularly narrow bit of pavement, with railings separating it from the road. Three students approached, three abreast, literally a whisker away from the two of us, who are walking single file. 

In the heat of the moment I think all I said was “move out of the way please”, or “you should be further away”, but they didn’t give a toss. They just laughed. 

Originally Posted by: Joe Bloggs 

Infections for many of the UK deaths now being reported will have happened around the time the Govt. inexplicably allowed 250k people to attend Cheltenham Festival, 54k to attend Liverpool v Atletico & 50k to attend @stereophonics shows. How many of them got infected and/or died? pic.twitter.com/lPqG6hioV7

— *****Morgan (@piersmorgan) April 10, 2020

Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 

Questions

1. Why don’t the government report on deaths in care homes.

2. If our hospital admissions and critical care are not at capacity, why is our death rate looking like exceeding Italy and other European countries

3. Why does it feel like their is a collective daily whitewash of some of the most critical issues.

Originally Posted by: Heavy Weather 2013 

I tend not to get involved, not worth it! 

My back facing neighbours had a big BBQ this afternoon with extended family and friends. I don't think that's allowed even though its private property?

But I've had trouble with them before. Their eldest son has an air rifle and sometimes makes holes in my fencing. I complained and got an earful of abuse, though the mother did apologise later

I was tempted to report their gathering, but they would probably know it was me!

Originally Posted by: The Beast from the East 

1. because they don't have that data

2. because we have more capacity?

3. I don't think there is

Originally Posted by: Essan 

 If we have more capacity why is our death rate just as high. You obviously didn’t read the question

Originally Posted by: Heavy Weather 2013 

1. Why don’t they have the data?


2. If we have more capacity why is our death rate just as high. You obviously didn’t read the question


3. Your part of the problem

Originally Posted by: Heavy Weather 2013 

I mentioned before, Lombardy's infection rate and death rate vastly exceeded the UK's, which is why Lombardy ran out of beds etc. Most of the south of Italy had plenty of spare capacity.

Originally Posted by: Darren S