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Gavin D
11 April 2020 13:58:47
April 4th currently has the highest total for the most hospital deaths in a single day with 671.
Saint Snow
11 April 2020 13:58:53

BBC bosses tell interviewers to go easy on ministers.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8210271/BBC-bosses-warning-interviewers-not-ministers-pressure-coronavirus-crisis.html

Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 


 


Welcome to the banana republic. 


Anyone left who doesn't now believe the BBC is now little more than a Tory Party mouthpiece?


 


Martin
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"How can wealth persuade poverty to use its political freedom to keep wealth in power? Here lies the whole art of Conservative politics."
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Saint Snow
11 April 2020 13:59:54

My dog is struggling with this heat, and is in need of a haircut. 


Seems daft why dog groomers are forced to close. 


Martin
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A TWO addict since 14/12/01
"How can wealth persuade poverty to use its political freedom to keep wealth in power? Here lies the whole art of Conservative politics."
Aneurin Bevan
Ulric
11 April 2020 14:01:47


 In other words the lockdown is not effective enough to bring R0 down to 1. 


The consequences of this are very concerning.


Originally Posted by: Quantum 


Notice though, that the government haven't actually done anything to reduce R0. They have issued advice and loans but responsibility for compliance remains with you and me. This provides the government with two things.


An economy in long term debt to it.


Plausible deniability.


Its a rent-seekers paradise.

To doubt everything or to believe everything are two equally convenient solutions; both dispense with the necessity of reflection. - Henri Poincaré
llamedos
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11 April 2020 14:04:17


My dog is struggling with this heat, and is in need of a haircut. 


Seems daft why dog groomers are forced to close. 


Originally Posted by: Saint Snow 

Do what my one does Martin


https://www.theweatheroutlook.com/twocommunity/default.aspx?g=posts&t=21026


or just groom it daily......just as good as a haircut.

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Gavin D
11 April 2020 14:09:59
Government presser is at 4pm

Lead by Priti Patel

With

Martin Hewitt, Chair of the National Police Chiefs' Council.
Steve Powis, NHS England Medical Director.
springsunshine
11 April 2020 14:11:16

From what I can deduce from recent days figures are that this virus was spreading like wildfire in March before the lockdown and the vast majority of deaths are as a result of conracting it before lockdown?? Therefore shouldn`t we be seeing a sharp drop by the end of next week?

CreweCold
11 April 2020 14:14:43


Another poor performance from the JFF model.



Projected: 4259 confirmed cases


Actual: 5234 confirmed cases


Its quite worrying we are seeing this, I really hope this is just two bad days and we will see a large drop tommorow. If the model is wrong then it would imply that we are no longer seeing an approximately linear decline in R0. In other words the lockdown is not effective enough to bring R0 down to 1. 


The consequences of this are very concerning.


 


Originally Posted by: Quantum 


The 'lockdown' has been a shambles. I've been working through it and have seen the amount of people milling about seemingly without a care.


Crewe, Cheshire
55 metres above sea level
speckledjim
11 April 2020 14:15:06


 


Today's figures are horrible. The only hope is they aren't skewered because it is Saturday. If they are the true count could be closer to 1500. That's excluding care homes. 


Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 


We won’t know for sure re accuracy until we get the figures from next Tuesday.

Thorner, West Yorkshire


Journalism is organised gossip
fairweather
11 April 2020 14:15:17


From what I can deduce from recent days figures are that this virus was spreading like wildfire in March before the lockdown and the vast majority of deaths are as a result of conracting it before lockdown?? Therefore shouldn`t we be seeing a sharp drop by the end of next week?


Originally Posted by: springsunshine 


Should, yes!

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The Beast from the East
11 April 2020 14:16:01

Government presser is at 4pm

Lead by Priti Patel

With

Martin Hewitt, Chair of the National Police Chiefs' Council.
Steve Powis, NHS England Medical Director.

Originally Posted by: Gavin D 


WTF!


I'm tuning in for this one

"We have some alternative facts for you"
Kelly-Ann Conway - special adviser to the President
speckledjim
11 April 2020 14:16:34


 


The 'lockdown' has been a shambles. I've been working through it and have seen the amount of people milling about seemingly without a care.


Originally Posted by: CreweCold 


Its worked really well round me, everyone is obeying it. I’m sure there are areas where it isn’t but I’d imagine the vast majority of the country are obeying the guidelines

Thorner, West Yorkshire


Journalism is organised gossip
The Beast from the East
11 April 2020 14:17:20


 


Should, yes!


Originally Posted by: fairweather 


They should drop but perhaps not as much as Spain, Italy and France as our lockdown is softer and some are ignoring it 

"We have some alternative facts for you"
Kelly-Ann Conway - special adviser to the President
CreweCold
11 April 2020 14:18:53


 


Its worked really well round me, everyone is obeying it. I’m sure there are areas where it isn’t but I’d imagine the vast majority of the country are obeying the guidelines


Originally Posted by: speckledjim 


If lockdown was working well, we'd be seeing a big drop in case numbers and hospital admissions by now...almost 3 weeks in.


Crewe, Cheshire
55 metres above sea level
westv
11 April 2020 14:18:54


 


Its worked really well round me, everyone is obeying it. I’m sure there are areas where it isn’t but I’d imagine the vast majority of the country are obeying the guidelines


Originally Posted by: speckledjim 


The Google data thing and the daily graphs shown in the press conferences appear to show that too.

At least it will be mild!
Caz
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11 April 2020 14:20:38


Another poor performance from the JFF model.



Projected: 4259 confirmed cases


Actual: 5234 confirmed cases


Its quite worrying we are seeing this, I really hope this is just two bad days and we will see a large drop tommorow. If the model is wrong then it would imply that we are no longer seeing an approximately linear decline in R0. In other words the lockdown is not effective enough to bring R0 down to 1. 


The consequences of this are very concerning.


 


Originally Posted by: Quantum 

Remember though that we are testing considerably more now and not just hospital admissions.  So some of the positives could be mild or asymptomatic cases.  

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Gooner
11 April 2020 14:20:50


From what I can deduce from recent days figures are that this virus was spreading like wildfire in March before the lockdown and the vast majority of deaths are as a result of conracting it before lockdown?? Therefore shouldn`t we be seeing a sharp drop by the end of next week?


Originally Posted by: springsunshine 


You are assuming the restrictions have been tight ( it isn't a lockdown by any stretch of the imagination ) there are thousands of people still working in the manufacturing and construction industry without any sort of policing just a reliance that business's are doing the right thing.


On top of the above as I said on Thursday , you'd have no idea there were restrictions in place going on the amount of people strolling through Banbury .


I was talking to a mate last weekend , his sister in law is a member of Northants police , she has 300 villages to cover - you have no chance 

Remember anything after T120 is really Just For Fun



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warrenb
11 April 2020 14:20:58


 


Its worked really well round me, everyone is obeying it. I’m sure there are areas where it isn’t but I’d imagine the vast majority of the country are obeying the guidelines


Originally Posted by: speckledjim 


 


Now now a little to optimistic for this thread i am afraid. Go wash your mouth out and come back with a sort of government failing or negative comparison to another country.

Tonbridge 45m 
Heavy Weather 2013
11 April 2020 14:22:14


Remember though that we are testing considerably more now and not just hospital admissions.  So some of the positives could be mild or asymptomatic cases.  


Originally Posted by: Caz 


Have they now started testing people who are not in hospital?

Mark
Beckton, E London
Less than 500m from the end of London City Airport runway.
Retron
11 April 2020 14:22:26


 


Its worked really well round me, everyone is obeying it. I’m sure there are areas where it isn’t but I’d imagine the vast majority of the country are obeying the guidelines


Originally Posted by: speckledjim 


Most are, but there are certainly plenty who aren't. Heck, just on the little 9-by-5 Isle of Sheppey we've had:


Ice cream vans out and about selling ice cream


Motorcyclists roaring from end to the end of the island in groups


People coming down in motorhomes and parking by the seafront in Minster and Leysdown


Londoners coming down to the holiday parks - they're still open as they've been letting people illegally stay in them year round, and some of the people say they have nowhere else to go despite having to put down their "main address" (which is elsewhere) to be able to buy a place on them. There's enough traffic to the parks to show up on Google Maps.


One of my neighbours (not sure which) has had friends round all morning, parking outside my house.


 

Leysdown, north Kent
Gandalf The White
11 April 2020 14:24:03


Another poor performance from the JFF model.



Projected: 4259 confirmed cases


Actual: 5234 confirmed cases


Its quite worrying we are seeing this, I really hope this is just two bad days and we will see a large drop tommorow. If the model is wrong then it would imply that we are no longer seeing an approximately linear decline in R0. In other words the lockdown is not effective enough to bring R0 down to 1. 


The consequences of this are very concerning.


 


Originally Posted by: Quantum 


The Horizon programme said the R0 value had been brought below 1 by people largely staying at home and social distancing.


I think your model is doing quite well overall. We do seem to be trending down, as your model predicts.

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speckledjim
11 April 2020 14:24:11


 


If lockdown was working well, we'd be seeing a big drop in case numbers and hospital admissions by now...almost 3 weeks in.


Originally Posted by: CreweCold 


The rate of increase for hospital admissions is dropping and as for case numbers, the more we test the more we will find.

Thorner, West Yorkshire


Journalism is organised gossip
Justin W
11 April 2020 14:28:12
I think we have peaked in terms of growth of infections. Death toll will continue to rise to the end of next week, perhaps beyond. But some reasons for cautious optimism.
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Heavy Weather 2013
11 April 2020 14:30:37


 


Most are, but there are certainly plenty who aren't. Heck, just on the little 9-by-5 Isle of Sheppey we've had:


Ice cream vans out and about selling ice cream


Motorcyclists roaring from end to the end of the island in groups


People coming down in motorhomes and parking by the seafront in Minster and Leysdown


Londoners coming down to the holiday parks - they're still open as they've been letting people illegally stay in them year round, and some of the people say they have nowhere else to go despite having to put down their "main address" (which is elsewhere) to be able to buy a place on them. There's enough traffic to the parks to show up on Google Maps.


One of my neighbours (not sure which) has had friends round all morning, parking outside my house.


 


Originally Posted by: Retron 


Not much better hear. I went for my run earlier and people were climbing the barrier to use the outside gym.


Some ground of lads using their mini Moto on the grass opposite my house and groups sunbathing.


 

Mark
Beckton, E London
Less than 500m from the end of London City Airport runway.
Caz
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  • Advanced Member
11 April 2020 14:33:23


 


Have they now started testing people who are not in hospital?


Originally Posted by: Heavy Weather 2013 

They’re testing frontline staff as well. 

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