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JHutch
11 April 2020 16:41:18

Been out on the bike round here. More bikes than cars i think, empty roads make it easy to swing out wide to pass other cyclists or let pedestrians move out into the road to maintain social distancing. Was surprised at how many bikes there were actually, i think that everyone with one must be out at some point today! The main negative was seeing fire, police and ambulance services all attending an accident on a straight road where someone had driven straight into the front of an estate agent, really piled into it, very crumpled front end of the car. 

Roger Parsons
11 April 2020 16:46:01


Who thought it was a good idea to let Priti do one of these?


Awful creature


Originally Posted by: The Beast from the East 


I can't comment on her "awfulness" as my impressions are entirely media-based, but it had seemed there was a conscious decision to keep her out of the public eye.


Perhaps this now should read: There should have been a conscious decision to keep her out of the public eye.


Roger.


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Saint Snow
11 April 2020 16:47:14


Been out on the bike round here. More bikes than cars i think, empty roads make it easy to swing out wide to pass other cyclists or let pedestrians move out into the road to maintain social distancing. Was surprised at how many bikes there were actually, i think that everyone with one must be out at some point today! The main negative was seeing fire, police and ambulance services all attending an accident on a straight road where someone had driven straight into the front of an estate agent, really piled into it, very crumpled front end of the car. 


Originally Posted by: JHutch 


 


Probably swerved to avoid a bloody cyclist.



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Gavin D
11 April 2020 16:47:59

A further 208 patients have died in London. The deaths were between March 25th and April 10th they were all announced today.


 



  • Royal Free London NHS Trust - 33 deaths (between March 30 and April 9)

  • Imperial College Healthcare Trust - 25 deaths (between April 3 and April 10)

  • Barts Health NHS Trust - 17 deaths (between March 25 and April 10)

  • Epsom and St Helier University Hospitals NHS Trust - 15 deaths (between April 4 and April 9)

  • Barking, Havering and Redbridge University Hospitals NHS Trust - 13 deaths (between April 3 and April 7)

  • King's College Hospital NHS Foundation Trust - 13 deaths (between April 7 and April 10)

  • Lewisham and Greenwich NHS Trust - 11 deaths (between April 8 and April 10)

  • London North West University Healthcare Trust - 11 deaths (between April 1 and April 10)

  • North Middlesex University Hospital NHS Trust - 11 deaths(between April 8 and April 9)

  • St George's University Hospitals NHS Foundation Trust - 10 deaths (between April 8 and April 10)

  • University College London Hospitals NHS Foundation Trust - 10 deaths (between April 7 and April 10)

  • Croydon Health Services NHS Trust - 9 deaths (between April 9 and April 10)

  • Guy's and St Thomas' NHS Foundation Trust - 6 deaths (between April 7 and April 10)

  • Homerton University Hospital Foundation Trust - 5 deaths (between April 9 and April 10)

  • Chelsea and Westminster Hospital NHS Foundation Trust - 4 deaths (between April 2 and April 9)

  • Royal Brompton and Harefield NHS Foundation Trust - 3 deaths (between April 9 and April 10)

  • Kingston Hospital NHS Foundation Hospital - 3 deaths (April 10)

  • The Hillingdon Hospitals NHS Foundation Trust - 3 deaths (April 9)

  • Whittington Health NHS Trust - 3 deaths (between April 4 and April 7)

  • East London NHS Foundation Trust - 1 death (April 9)

  • HCA UK - The Wellington Hospital North Building - 1 death (April 7)

  • The Royal Marsden NHS Foundation Trust - 1 death (April 10)

Caz
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11 April 2020 16:57:48


This made me chuckle:


Prof Stephen Powis of NHS England says it's difficult to give a precise number on how much PPE is needed in comparison with how much is being delivered, because it varies from day to day.


 


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/world-52252981


 


Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 

The other point that was touched on was that there is now demand from frontline staff other than hospitals.  Doctors surgeries and pharmacies, as well as a very large number of care homes, all need PPE now in addition to all the hospital staff that didn’t need it before Covid. 


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JHutch
11 April 2020 16:58:34


 


 


Probably swerved to avoid a bloody cyclist.


Originally Posted by: Saint Snow 


Doubt it, no idea how someone managed to do it. Half wonder on reflection whether someone had deliberately rammed it, odd.

Gavin D
11 April 2020 16:59:17

Most Aldi stores across the country will be opening extended hours not closing until 10pm from Tuesday 14th April. The new closing time will apply from Monday to Saturday (Monday 13th excluded owning to a bank holiday)


Morrisons will also be opening extended hours with stores opening from 6am* to 8pm from Tuesday 14th April the new opening hours will also apply Monday to Saturday (Monday 13th excluded owning to a bank holiday)


*6am to 7am applies to NHS workers only 

The Beast from the East
11 April 2020 17:30:19


"We have some alternative facts for you"
Kelly-Ann Conway - special adviser to the President
The Beast from the East
11 April 2020 17:31:32


"We have some alternative facts for you"
Kelly-Ann Conway - special adviser to the President
ozone_aurora
11 April 2020 17:33:09

I have just been out for a walk and was commenting that the roads are the quietest I have seen in a very long time.

Originally Posted by: doctormog 


Here in Lowestoft it's been quite noisy. It's gone quieter now.

The Beast from the East
11 April 2020 17:34:15

Why don't you ask your pal Boris


 




"We have some alternative facts for you"
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JHutch
11 April 2020 17:35:41

A bit more info on the South Koreans who are testing positive again. Seems to be suggestions that the virus may have reactivated rather than the patient been reinfected. Up to 91 now who have tested positive after being initially cleared.


 


'remnants of the virus could still be in patients’ systems but not be infectious or of danger to the host or others'


This line made me a bit puzzled. I had thought that these people were being retested because they were showing symptoms again, but that line suggests that they may not be showing symptoms, in which case they may just be being tested as a precaution? 


https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-southkorea-idUSKCN21S15X


 

Brian Gaze
11 April 2020 17:37:55

The question I would ask at the briefing is this:


You were testing hospital admissions. Tests amounted to ~10,000 per day.


You are now testing hospital admissions and NHS staff. NHS staff amount to between 400 to 600 tests per day.


You are now testing ~20,000 people per day.  So who the hell are you testing? Hospital admissions have gone up but not by anywhere near enough to account for the extra testing.


 


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The Beast from the East
11 April 2020 17:38:12


"We have some alternative facts for you"
Kelly-Ann Conway - special adviser to the President
Maunder Minimum
11 April 2020 18:17:19

For those who are interested, my son-in-law sent me the following link to a PDF document last night:


https://www.icnarc.org/DataServices/Attachments/Download/41bbc4bb-2c7b-ea11-9124-00505601089b?fbclid=IwAR34gRslJoL1dtARmnjS1-D_t5h-sOL8S_x-JjZ7OlXjBo3J4ic_KZN_02o


It provides all the known stats as of 10th April.


P.S. James O'Brien is a complete knob!


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Bugglesgate
11 April 2020 18:25:41


 


How does the barber stay 2 metres away? Does he have very long arms and even longer scissors? đŸ˜‰


Originally Posted by: Gandalf The White 


 


I have no idea Peter - I haven't availed myself of their services.  I think they are skating on thin ice with that to be honest.  My dentist has gone over to emergencies only (abscess / extreme pain, possible wider health issues etc etc etc) and I guess they will be masked up.   Difficult to  class having having your Barnet  trimmed as an emergency   .... unless you're in danger  of tripping over it.  I hope we  won't be in lock-down that long


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Bugglesgate
11 April 2020 18:31:08


 


 


Probably swerved to avoid a bloody cyclist.


Originally Posted by: Saint Snow 


 



 


Had one come up behind me this morning when walking - bloody fast and close, certainly not 2M.  I guess the speed   means the risk is less though !


Chris (It,its)
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Ulric
11 April 2020 18:37:52


 


I can't comment on her "awfulness" as my impressions are entirely media-based, but it had seemed there was a conscious decision to keep her out of the public eye.


Perhaps this now should read: There should have been a conscious decision to keep her out of the public eye.


Roger.


Originally Posted by: Roger Parsons 






To doubt everything or to believe everything are two equally convenient solutions; both dispense with the necessity of reflection. - Henri Poincaré
fairweather
11 April 2020 18:45:58


 


Its worked really well round me, everyone is obeying it. I’m sure there are areas where it isn’t but I’d imagine the vast majority of the country are obeying the guidelines


Originally Posted by: speckledjim 


Amazingly and surprisingly good here. It's hard to see how anyone could catch it.


S.Essex, 42m ASL
Bugglesgate
11 April 2020 18:55:40


 


Amazingly and surprisingly good here. It's hard to see how anyone could catch it.


Originally Posted by: fairweather 


Indeed.  I was pretty disappointed by the numbers today, but, surely, we must soon see a meaningful reduction  in hospital admissions.   America seems to be heading for a major crisis.


Chris (It,its)
Between Newbury and Basingstoke
"When they are giving you their all, some stagger and fall, after all it's not easy banging your heart against some mad buggers wall"
fairweather
11 April 2020 18:58:52

Just been to Aylesbury and back to deliver some essentials. First time I've been on the road for 2 weeks. Aylesbury itself was busy with traffic queuing at junctions. Some pedestrians were obeying social distancing and some weren't. I thought it was perhaps like a normal Saturday from the late 1950s. (Not that I was around then). Certainly wouldn't call it a "lockdown".

Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 


I was! But I don't recall what a normal Saturday was likewink. Till yesterday I had not been out for a week and I couldn't see anybody not social distancing. Only saw about 20 people mind, which is a good sign. That was on a 10 minute round trip through mainly estate type roads in a town with a population of 300,000. At first I thought a few weren't then I figured it was probably parents and children or young adults.


People who aren't social distancing must have serious sociopathic traits - I mean who would want to get it? We've all seen what it's like.


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DEW
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  • Advanced Member
11 April 2020 19:00:52


A bit more info on the South Koreans who are testing positive again. Seems to be suggestions that the virus may have reactivated rather than the patient been reinfected. Up to 91 now who have tested positive after being initially cleared.


 


'remnants of the virus could still be in patients’ systems but not be infectious or of danger to the host or others'


This line made me a bit puzzled. I had thought that these people were being retested because they were showing symptoms again, but that line suggests that they may not be showing symptoms, in which case they may just be being tested as a precaution? 


https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-southkorea-idUSKCN21S15X


 


Originally Posted by: JHutch 


I wouldn't know the reason behind the testing, but it might be worth remembering that the chicken pox virus can go dormant and re-emerge as shingles decades later. So re-activation is not an unknown feature of viruses and, ominously, if you haven't had chicken pox, you can catch it from someone who has shingles (cf https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/shingles/#overview).


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fairweather
11 April 2020 19:02:05


 


How does the barber stay 2 metres away? Does he have very long arms and even longer scissors? đŸ˜‰


Originally Posted by: Gandalf The White 


My friend owns a men's and ladies hairdressers. He said he shut a couple of weeks ago following government advice.


S.Essex, 42m ASL
Maunder Minimum
11 April 2020 19:04:25

Puzzled how Spain has seen such a big reduction in mortality, as compared to Italy and France which have equally severe lockdowns in place.


Something suspect about some of the figures.


New world order coming.
Bugglesgate
11 April 2020 19:04:47


 


I wouldn't know the reason behind the testing, but it might be worth remembering that the chicken pox virus can go dormant and re-emerge as shingles decades later. So re-activation is not an unknown feature of viruses and, ominously, if you haven't had chicken pox, you can catch it from someone who has shingles (cf https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/shingles/#overview).


Originally Posted by: DEW 


 


Chicken pox is also something  that is better is better to get as a  child.   Just a bit itchy for me and I remember mum putting potassium permanganate in  the bath, turning it a nice purple - initially !!   My boss got it a couple of years ago and it laid him low for weeks !


 


 


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"When they are giving you their all, some stagger and fall, after all it's not easy banging your heart against some mad buggers wall"

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