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Heavy Weather 2013
21 April 2020 16:21:56
Matt Hancock looks rattled in this Press Conference
Mark
Beckton, E London
Less than 500m from the end of London City Airport runway.
Justin W
21 April 2020 16:24:02

Matt Hancock looks rattled in this Press Conference

Originally Posted by: Heavy Weather 2013 


That's because he is a lying little weasel who has been found out. Saying stuff (100,000 tests by end of April etc etc) to get people off your back is not a good strategy for a govt minister.

Yo yo yo. 148-3 to the 3 to the 6 to the 9, representing the ABQ, what up, biatch?
Saint Snow
21 April 2020 16:24:28

First NHS worker, a 59 year old surgeon and father of four, has died at the hospital my wife works at.


Another death chalked up for the criminal lack of PPE for NHS and care workers.



 


Martin
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Heavy Weather 2013
21 April 2020 16:25:12
Why do I get the feeling that MH will change the target to the fact we have the capacity to deliver 100k tests.

Still the capacity of 39K is nowhere near the 100k

It seems that the test centres are not in locations that are easy access
Mark
Beckton, E London
Less than 500m from the end of London City Airport runway.
Saint Snow
21 April 2020 16:26:18


 


That's because he is a lying little weasel who has been found out. Saying stuff (100,000 tests by end of April etc etc) to get people off your back is not a good strategy for a govt minister.


Originally Posted by: Justin W 


 



 


Lies, fake social media and propaganda to mask their incompetence.


 


Martin
Home: St Helens (26m asl) Work: Manchester (75m asl)
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"How can wealth persuade poverty to use its political freedom to keep wealth in power? Here lies the whole art of Conservative politics."
Aneurin Bevan
Retron
21 April 2020 16:27:27
Signs of the lockdown beginning to creak a bit?

B&Q's going to open its Gillingham store, as it's an essential retailer. All the rest in Kent will remain closed.

https://www.kentonline.co.uk/medway/news/b-q-to-reopen-one-kent-store-during-lockdown-225995/ 
Leysdown, north Kent
Heavy Weather 2013
21 April 2020 16:27:29


 


That's because he is a lying little weasel who has been found out. Saying stuff (100,000 tests by end of April etc etc) to get people off your back is not a good strategy for a govt minister.


Originally Posted by: Justin W 


Agreed. I found it particularly sickening today hearing him almost excitedly saying how many records have been broken and then talking about how many people have died. He is excruciating.

Mark
Beckton, E London
Less than 500m from the end of London City Airport runway.
Chunky Pea
21 April 2020 16:35:17


 


Agreed. I found it particularly sickening today hearing him almost excitedly saying how many records have been broken and then talking about how many people have died. He is excruciating.


Originally Posted by: Heavy Weather 2013 


I happened upon one of his press statements about a week ago, and came away with the impression that he has no soul.. literally. 

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Retron
21 April 2020 16:35:21


 flying Club Europe,...


sardining on an Easy Jet (and even with the middle seats out it still will be)


Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 


You might be in for a bit of a shock - Club Europe's lovely and I'd highly recommend it for the lounge access, express checkin and boarding, assuming you don't have status.


However, like all European business class it's just economy seating with the middle seats blocked out, while the "back of the bus" usually is just as sardine-packed as on Easyjet and Ryanair.


(The way to do it, if you're going, is to book Club Europe where they use longhaul planes, i.e. the 777 to Madrid. That gets you a flatbed Club World seat or even, if you're really lucky, a First seat. Now that's the way to social distance!)


 


 

Leysdown, north Kent
John p
21 April 2020 16:35:23


 



Originally Posted by: Lionel Hutz 


I agree with you - we booked France for August in January. 
Although I highly doubt we’ll be going, I see no point in cancelling yet (I have until July to cancel).  

Camberley, Surrey
Chunky Pea
21 April 2020 16:40:02


 


I agree with you - we booked France for August in January. 
Although I highly doubt we’ll be going, I see no point in cancelling yet (I have until July to cancel).  


Originally Posted by: John p 


My guess is that these new bans on 'mass gatherings' until autumn are just a precursor to the lockdown being extended until at least then. 

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Ulric
21 April 2020 16:41:12


 


"The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, and wiser people so full of doubts."


Bertrand Russell


Originally Posted by: RobN 


To doubt everything or to believe everything are two equally convenient solutions; both dispense with the necessity of reflection. - Henri Poincaré
Phil G
21 April 2020 16:43:04


Positive cases have been above 4k since the 1st April. So while flat, it’s flat at a high level.


I am concerned it’s not dropped below 4k and suggests while the lockdown has helped, it’s not been adhered to enough.


Originally Posted by: Heavy Weather 2013 


Double counting?! I don't have much confidence in the figures and sure there will be more revisions. In jest I mentioned a couple of weeks back that figures could be altered high which keeps the lockdown in place for longer. If we were showing 1-2k cases, there would be more pressure to relax now. Sure this is not the case, but you would of thought it should be moving a bit more now. It could be these relaxations are the 'best we can do' and this may be the normal rate for now with such a large base to tap into. No getting away, despite measures people are still going to be infected in supermarkets, and there are plenty of them.

John p
21 April 2020 16:43:11

UK all setting deaths currently track third worst after Spain and USA

Originally Posted by: Heavy Weather 2013 


Why is the all settings curve offset back from the hospital curve? Shouldn’t they be on the same timeline?


 

Camberley, Surrey
Heavy Weather 2013
21 April 2020 16:44:41
Did anyone see the headline in the telegraph today about Downing Street casting doubt on the 100k testing figure.

Is Hancock going to be the full guy I wonder?
Mark
Beckton, E London
Less than 500m from the end of London City Airport runway.
Heavy Weather 2013
21 April 2020 16:45:50


 


Why is the all settings curve offset back from the hospital curve? Shouldn’t they be on the same timeline?


 


Originally Posted by: John p 


I think that the all settings figure is only updated once the weekly ONS figures are released 

Mark
Beckton, E London
Less than 500m from the end of London City Airport runway.
John p
21 April 2020 16:49:22

Did anyone see the headline in the telegraph today about Downing Street casting doubt on the 100k testing figure.

Is Hancock going to be the full guy I wonder?

Originally Posted by: Heavy Weather 2013 


The fall guys will be Hancock, Whitty and Vallance. 
Bojo and Cummings will escape unscathed. 

Camberley, Surrey
Gandalf The White
21 April 2020 16:50:43


 


That's because he is a lying little weasel who has been found out. Saying stuff (100,000 tests by end of April etc etc) to get people off your back is not a good strategy for a govt minister.


Originally Posted by: Justin W 


It's not a good strategy for anyone in a responsible position. If you keep making promises and failing to deliver you lose credibility.


I can see one or two ministerial changes when the dust settles. Health and Home Secretary seem favourites.


IMO the only one who has come through this with an enhanced reputation is the Chancellor of The Exchequer.

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Brian Gaze
21 April 2020 16:56:59


 


That's because he is a lying little weasel who has been found out. Saying stuff (100,000 tests by end of April etc etc) to get people off your back is not a good strategy for a govt minister.


Originally Posted by: Justin W 


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Gandalf The White
21 April 2020 16:58:39
There is another story, this time in the Huffpost, on the prospects for a vaccine.

https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/coronavirus-vaccine_uk_5e9ea1d5c5b6a486d07ea290?ncid=other_huffpostre_pqylmel2bk8&utm_campaign=related_articles 

In that piece it says, "But one of the most important factors to measure for in a vaccine is how long the protection it offers actually lasts. In the case of Covid-19, anything less than a year will not be much use."

But that gave me pause for thought. Surely even if a vaccine was effective for, say, just nine months, by spreading the vaccination programme evenly across the year you'd still have a minimum 75% herd immunity which whilst not preventing some new cases would prevent further epidemics? Obviously the closer you get to a year the higher the level of overall protection; beyond a year it's not a problem (except logistically).

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Justin W
21 April 2020 16:58:53


 


It's not a good strategy for anyone in a responsible position. If you keep making promises and failing to deliver you lose credibility.


I can see one or two ministerial changes when the dust settles. Health and Home Secretary seem favourites.


IMO the only one who has come through this with an enhanced reputation is the Chancellor of The Exchequer.


Originally Posted by: Gandalf The White 


Agree with that although I found him less impressive yesterday 

Yo yo yo. 148-3 to the 3 to the 6 to the 9, representing the ABQ, what up, biatch?
xioni2
21 April 2020 16:59:50


 It's not a good strategy for anyone in a responsible position. If you keep making promises and failing to deliver you lose credibility.


I can see one or two ministerial changes when the dust settles. Health and Home Secretary seem favourites.


IMO the only one who has come through this with an enhanced reputation is the Chancellor of The Exchequer.


Originally Posted by: Gandalf The White 


Who cares about their careers though, they just need to stop making mistakes. Where is the big push for mass testing and tracing? Why don't they shift civil servants towards this goal? At some point they had 25,000 civil servants working on Brexit!


It's absolutely pathetic.


 


 

Heavy Weather 2013
21 April 2020 17:00:16
What’s everyone’s thoughts on the Oxford Vaccine trails. Feels quite bullish.
Mark
Beckton, E London
Less than 500m from the end of London City Airport runway.
Heavy Weather 2013
21 April 2020 17:09:20


 


It's not a good strategy for anyone in a responsible position. If you keep making promises and failing to deliver you lose credibility.


I can see one or two ministerial changes when the dust settles. Health and Home Secretary seem favourites.


IMO the only one who has come through this with an enhanced reputation is the Chancellor of The Exchequer.


Originally Posted by: Gandalf The White 


Yes, I think you could be right

Mark
Beckton, E London
Less than 500m from the end of London City Airport runway.
Chunky Pea
21 April 2020 17:12:48

Man thrown into prison for 'breaching' the 2 km from home restrictions:


https://www.rte.ie/news/courts/2020/0421/1132942-denis-constantin-court/


I am actually hoping now that this lockdown will extend into Autumn as it will prove a great eye-opener for the masses. 

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