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xioni2
28 April 2020 17:40:37


 Except, quite properly, every one (more or less) is criticising them.


But how long do we keep flagging the same point? 


I'm more concerned that the government gets its future decisions right and I'm concerned that it won't.  I really hope that those siren voices wanting an urgent return to 'normality' are ignored.


Originally Posted by: Gandalf The White 


I agree that future decisions are much more important as the rest is history. However, criticising the recent mistakes could perhaps help avoiding making new ones. 


At the moment the govt is taking the right approach with regard to the lockdown, but they also need to prepare a proper test/trace/isolate plan for when (hopefully) the number of new infections has dropped and the lockdown is lifted.


 

Gandalf The White
28 April 2020 17:41:08


 


I have motion sensor option on mine, but I have to turn it off because the Foxes keep triggering it. Same with the motion spot lights! 


Originally Posted by: The Beast from the East 


Yes, ditto.  But the sensor is adjustable. To begin with ours was picking up the odd rodent (before the poison did it's job...)


It does pick up the farm vehicles that trundle down the track from time to time.

Location: South Cambridgeshire
130 metres ASL
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The Beast from the East
28 April 2020 17:43:10


 


PS: I attended an online beer and food pairing event last Saturday. The guy presenting it mentioned the Red(On)Lion pub. Don't know if it's of interest:


https://theredonlion.co.uk/


I'm sure you don't have drink real ale if that's not your thing. 


Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 


I know the Red Lion pub, but never been there. I do drink some real ales, like Old peculiar and Abbott. The stronger sweeter ones, but I don't like the citrus IPA types


 

Purley, Surrey, 70m ASL

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Chunky Pea
28 April 2020 17:43:47


 


The camera I’m planning to get is the blink xt2, available on Amazon and it’s Wi-Fi so easy to setup. Some friends have it and they say it’s good 


Originally Posted by: speckledjim 


Thanks Speakeldjim. Looks like a serious piece of kit. Bit on the expensive side but you get what you pay for.  


 


Edit:



 


I think I paid about £50-£60.  The same make/model is now £20 more but there are identical cameras under a different brand name at Amazon for around £50 and other products from £30 - plus the cost of the memory card.


Originally Posted by: Gandalf The White 


Thanks GTW, worth looking up. 


 

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xioni2
28 April 2020 17:44:31


 I think I paid about £50-£60.  The same make/model is now £20 more but there are identical cameras under a different brand name at Amazon for around £50 and other products from £30 - plus the cost of the memory card.


Originally Posted by: Gandalf The White 


You can now get high quality 4K cameras with great night vision for a bit more than £100. They are wired, but with little mess.


They are probably better for watching the neighbours as the burglars adjust accordingly. 

Roger Parsons
28 April 2020 17:57:11


You can now get high quality 4K cameras with great night vision for a bit more than £100. They are wired, but with little mess.


They are probably better for watching the neighbours as the burglars adjust accordingly. 


Originally Posted by: xioni2 


A local builders fitted some dummy cameras in their yard - which were promptly nicked....


R.

RogerP
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xioni2
28 April 2020 17:58:46

Greece starts lifting its restrictions from Monday next week in 7 stages. Restaurants, bars and cafes will only be allowed to operate their outdoor areas from 1 June. The use of face masks will be mandatory in public transport and all stores/shops. 

Brian Gaze
28 April 2020 18:01:39

France:


The lockdown will not be eased on 11 May if new cases don't stay below 3,000 a day, he added.


 


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-52459030


Sounds similar to what the UK will probably go with. It seems far too high IMO. 

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xioni2
28 April 2020 18:09:25

This is the FT estimate of the daily number of all deaths linked to CV19 and as they keep saying, it's more likely to be an underestimate.


Heavy Weather 2013
28 April 2020 18:20:24


This is the FT estimate of the daily number of all deaths linked to CV19 and as they keep saying, it's more likely to be an underestimate.



Originally Posted by: xioni2 


This graph shows why the government have not been clearer on deaths in all settings until recently. If they had included it weeks ago; the message of nearly 2000 deaths for three days in a row would have been a disaster for the government. They have controlled the narrative.  


Let’s hope we get phase 2 correct, because frankly phase one has resulted in so much loss of life it’s devastating. 

Mark
Beckton, E London
Less than 500m from the end of London City Airport runway.
SJV
28 April 2020 18:23:45
Just catching up on that briefing and bloody hell I don't know how Hancock sleeps at night after churning out lie after lie. Makes me sick to my stomach.
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28 April 2020 18:27:11

Perspective of a sort...


Coronavirus deaths in London hit Blitz levels


The number of people killed by coronavirus in London in the four weeks to 17 April has narrowly surpassed the number of civilians killed during the worst four-week period of aerial bombing of the city during the Blitz in World War Two.


 


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/52282844

Rob
In the flatlands of South Cambridgeshire 15m ASL.
Bugglesgate
28 April 2020 18:37:00


France:


The lockdown will not be eased on 11 May if new cases don't stay below 3,000 a day, he added.


 


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-52459030


Sounds similar to what the UK will probably go with. It seems far too high IMO. 


Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 


 


You are going to need a Herculean effort  to  trace  all contacts   for 3000 / day.  Let's   be honest, it just ain't going to happen !


 


 

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Heavy Weather 2013
28 April 2020 18:38:11

Just catching up on that briefing and bloody hell I don't know how Hancock sleeps at night after churning out lie after lie. Makes me sick to my stomach.

Originally Posted by: SJV 


He is just awful.


I was watching the briefings up until this week. I got sick of the NK type propaganda being spouted from that podium and the scientists standing their like nodding donkeys.

Mark
Beckton, E London
Less than 500m from the end of London City Airport runway.
fairweather
28 April 2020 18:42:46


 


THey cant help spinning can they? In other countries they just give  you the facts, however grim


 


Originally Posted by: The Beast from the East 


USA, China, Brazil??

S.Essex, 42m ASL
The Beast from the East
28 April 2020 18:49:33


 


USA, China, Brazil??


Originally Posted by: fairweather 


Apart from them of course!


 

Purley, Surrey, 70m ASL

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SJV
28 April 2020 18:49:35


 


He is just awful.


I was watching the briefings up until this week. I got sick of the NK type propaganda being spouted from that podium and the scientists standing their like nodding donkeys.


Originally Posted by: Heavy Weather 2013 


The key headlines generated (ie, any changes to current guidance) and the stats slides are what I get out of them. Anything else is just propaganda like you say.

speckledjim
28 April 2020 18:51:10


Greece starts lifting its restrictions from Monday next week in 7 stages. Restaurants, bars and cafes will only be allowed to operate their outdoor areas from 1 June. The use of face masks will be mandatory in public transport and all stores/shops. 


Originally Posted by: xioni2 


Just in time for the tourist season I wonder??

Thorner, West Yorkshire


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The Beast from the East
28 April 2020 18:51:43


 


He is just awful.


I was watching the briefings up until this week. I got sick of the NK type propaganda being spouted from that podium and the scientists standing their like nodding donkeys.


Originally Posted by: Heavy Weather 2013 


I stopped watching them after the first week. Has Vallance been challenged about his 20,000 deaths claim?


Where is Bozo? I thought he was back at work.

Purley, Surrey, 70m ASL

"We have some alternative facts for you"

Kelly-Ann Conway - former special adviser to the President
Joe Bloggs
28 April 2020 18:56:44
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/apr/28/uk-contact-tracing-plans-an-nhs-app-and-an-army-of-health-staff?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other 

Interesting. If this is done properly it will have a huge impact.

Manchester City Centre, 31m ASL
Essan
28 April 2020 18:57:23


 


I stopped watching them after the first week. Has Vallance been challenged about his 20,000 deaths claim?


 


Originally Posted by: The Beast from the East 




Challenged in what way?   Do you think he didn't really mean what he said?  Or are you a journalist (in which case the answer is 12 whelks and a loaf of bread)


 

Andy
Evesham, Worcs, Albion - 35m asl
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Gavin D
28 April 2020 18:57:28
29,571 tested
3,996 positive

Confirmed rate for positive tests is 13.51%

The confirmed rate for positive tests is the lowest since around March 23rd
Gavin D
28 April 2020 19:01:30
Pillar 1 - 2,455

Pillar 2 - 1,541

Total - 3,996
The Beast from the East
28 April 2020 19:03:39





Challenged in what way?   Do you think he didn't really mean what he said?  Or are you a journalist (in which case the answer is 12 whelks and a loaf of bread)


 


Originally Posted by: Essan 


He said 20,000 deaths would be a "good result"


I'm sorry if you feel the govt should not be held to account. Perhaps you should move to NK or Russia?


 

Purley, Surrey, 70m ASL

"We have some alternative facts for you"

Kelly-Ann Conway - former special adviser to the President
Justin W
28 April 2020 19:06:57
HMG is not held to account when you have the droning and preening self-obsessed like Peston asking the questions. The state of journalism leaves me in despair.
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