Donate to browse the TWO website without adverts until 31st December 2024. You'll also get access to extra features and supporting our ongoing development.
For full details please see Advert free access on our website.
Remove ads from site
GFS blows the heat east by Saturday afternoon. But UKMO remains absolutely roasting until Sunday afternoon and by the looks much longer
Think this hot spell will only be for the Midlands and SE. Don't think Scotland will join in this time. 29 C in Edinburgh on 31st July and 30 C near Inverness!!
Originally Posted by: Crepuscular Ray
Looks like Edinburgh and Inverness were two of the lucky places up here on Friday. We were forecast to reach about 27C in this area but in the event, I don't think we got higher than the low 20s. Not sunny enough!
Originally Posted by: Ally Pally Snowman
Not so sure this will be a particularly long lasting hot spell to be honest. Maybe two days rather than one day, but I feel that momentum is building towards a marked cool down (though still very pleasant) on Saturday and beyond.
Originally Posted by: moomin75
Big model uncertainty for sure from Saturday onwards.
This happens so often: there's an extended heatwave modelled across the board, but always with one or two outliers that show it ending sooner. Then one of the models grabs hold of the ending sooner theme and starts to model it consistently, while others keep the heat going.
Then at some point 4 or 5 days before the event the other models fall into line and we get the cliff in 850s. Then it becomes a question about how soon that cliff arrives. The cliff always wins.
Looking at GEFS dripping out this evening it seems we have a cliff due sometime on Saturday or Sunday. GEFS mean down to average by early next week, even if a bit warmer than the op.
GEFS offers solid support for cooler air to return this weekend. Mean is reasonably representative.
Remember that that earlier this summer, the GFS and all 20 of its ensembles were wrong at T96!GEM and ICON don’t agree with it, and neither does UKMO, which after a short cool off, look to reload the heat.
Remember that that easier this summer, the GFS and all 20 of its ensembles were wrong at T96!GEM and ICON don’t agree with it, and neither does UKMO, which after a short cool off, look to reload the heat.
Originally Posted by: superteacher
Kind of agree with this, but my instinct is that if GFS shows something less favourable, it's more often than not, near the mark.
Interesting runs this evening. All except ICON now going for the cooler secondary anticyclone, but with some keeping the heat hanging on in the S (ECM, GEM, UKMO) and GFS blasting it away because of a little trough that stops the secondary anticyclone from strengthening as much to our North.
Originally Posted by: TimS
ECM nearly loses the heat at 144hrs from the south and east, but at 168 it seems to build back in again. Still all to play for.
ECM is 40c run insane heat
Originally Posted by: David M Porter
They were very much the exceptions. It was a flop in NE Scotland away from the Moray Firth as a mass of unforecast cloud appeared in the middle of the day to peg back the temperatures.
It's been dire ever since and a prolonged settled spell is required rather than record or near record heat. Another cold and wet day tomorrow which will mean we have endured about a months worth of rain in just 10 days
Then some better but unspectacular days, that won't be good enough to cancel out the appalling start to the month, before it goes downhill rapidly in time for the weekend. Yet another write-off weekend on the cards - virtual repeat of the last one by the looks of things. More drizzly, damp, cool and cloudy NW'ly rubbish here in New Shetland:
https://expert-images.images-weatheronline.com/daten/proficharts/web/en/2020/08/03/basis06/ukuk/pslv/20080815_0306.gif
https://expert-images.images-weatheronline.com/daten/proficharts/web/en/2020/08/03/basis06/ukuk/prec/20080815_0306.gif
https://expert-images.images-weatheronline.com/daten/proficharts/web/en/2020/08/03/basis06/ukuk/rart/20080912_0306.gif
The following weekend I'm going to Glencoe and dread to think how bad it will be there
I wouldn't say that Ally. Possibly mid-30s though for sure.
It's showing 35c widely next Tuesday you can normally add 2or 3 to that. It was 5c too low last Friday.
Perhaps not quite 40C, but close to it and with heat index in the 40s as DPs are very high.
It's an insane run for sure. Absolute certainty this will be a major hot outlier sadly.
It's a frighteningly hot run to be honest. I like extremes but I'd be struggling in that heat.
I am as close to 100% certain as I can be that this ECM will be for the bin. There is just no way this will (or can) verify. Massive outlier is my bet.
of course it can verify - we just had 37.8 from a 2 day blast Europe is hot it won’t take much. Don’t dismiss as you don’t believe, the foundation is there for it