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Ally Pally Snowman
09 June 2023 15:15:55

It has 29c in the Dorset/Hampshire area today a good test on how accurate its going to be . 

Originally Posted by: Ally Pally Snowman 



Well Hurn in Dorset is currently 28.3c so not to shabby from UKV. Only model that went that high today. 
 
Bishop's Stortford 85m ASL.
NMA
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09 June 2023 16:21:31
It reached that here too. The thermometer says 27C and it feels warm even hot with higher humidity than recent weeks.
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moomin75
09 June 2023 16:31:43
Second consecutive GFS run showing a marked change to Atlantic driven muck from back end of next week.
Unsettled signals for second half of June are growing.
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picturesareme
09 June 2023 16:57:54

Well Hurn in Dorset is currently 28.3c so not to shabby from UKV. Only model that went that high today. 
 

Originally Posted by: Ally Pally Snowman 



And 28.6C here too. 
moomin75
09 June 2023 17:06:37

Second consecutive GFS run showing a marked change to Atlantic driven muck from back end of next week.
Unsettled signals for second half of June are growing.

Originally Posted by: moomin75 



No sign of any breakdown on UKMO or GEM though. 
Is GFS behaving as it usually does and bringing the Atlantic back too quickly.
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Ally Pally Snowman
09 June 2023 17:19:53

No sign of any breakdown on UKMO or GEM though. 
Is GFS behaving as it usually does and bringing the Atlantic back too quickly.

Originally Posted by: moomin75 



GFS Ops have been complete drivel recently.  2 days ago it had 17c max for London for tomorrow.  
Bishop's Stortford 85m ASL.
Jiries
09 June 2023 17:47:27

GFS Ops have been complete drivel recently.  2 days ago it had 17c max for London for tomorrow.  

Originally Posted by: Ally Pally Snowman 

  Better get rid of it, used to like it before but not anymore due to wrong daily results and silly charts that never happen.  17C tomorrow that nearly 13C wrong from other charts showing high 20's and possible 30C tomorrow.
Ally Pally Snowman
09 June 2023 19:13:51
Latest Arpege has joined the 30c club, 4 days in a row Saturday to Tuesday. 
 
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Tim A
09 June 2023 19:53:08
Still quite a difference between GFS and UKV for tomorrow with the later going for 31c in lowland Yorkshire , think that is overestimating though. 
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NW Leeds
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LeedsLad123
09 June 2023 19:58:57

Still quite a difference between GFS and UKV for tomorrow with the later going for 31c in lowland Yorkshire , think that is overestimating though. 

Originally Posted by: Tim A 


The Met are forecasting 28C for Leeds and experience tells me their automated forecasts usually underestimate temperatures on hot days, so I certainly think there’s a chance of reaching 30C here tomorrow - UKV was spot on today. But time will tell. 

The GFS 12z run was showing 24C as the highest temperature nationwide today, yet it reached 29C in Bournemouth and 27C in London. It’s severely underestimating temperatures for some reason so I’m taking no notice of it. 
Whitkirk, Leeds - 85m ASL.
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10 June 2023 07:04:02
Temp charts from WX show more heat than yesterday. Still a bit cool in week 1 close to the N Sea and in E Europe from Romania up to W Russia, but both areas becoming warm in week 2 and really hot in France and S England (just a small cold pool in the Balkans). Very dry from N Sea to Baltic in both weeks, and the belt of rain in S Europe becoming confined to the Balkans; Britain itself with some rain between dry sea areas on either side - convective situation?

GFS Op - HP over Scandinavia bringing in S/SE-lies and warmth for Britain to Wed 14th; then the HP drifts W-wards forming a N-S ridge over Britain until Sun 18th. This weakens for a few days as LP from Atlantic nears Ireland but resumes before collapsing in favour of slack LP imported from France Sun 25th. Further afield, throughout the period there is a tendency for pressure to be fairly high over the Baltic, fairly low for W and SE Europe, and the only strong feature an LP 990mb S Russia drifting N-wards.

ECM - similar to GFS until Sun 18th when the HP remains strong and drifts W-wards to lie W of Scotland and a weaker Atlantic LP stays off NW Spain rather than Ireland.

GEFS - very warm until about Wed 14th then continuing a degree or two above norm through to Mon 26th with good ens agreement (minor exceptions of an uptick in op & control at the very end and in the N one or two extremely cold outliers near Wed 21st). Small amounts of rain to 14th, then dry to Mon 19th when small amounts of rain appear in an increasing number of ens members, (but larger amounts more continuously in far N & W). 
 
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overland
10 June 2023 09:20:36
If you're a fan of warm weather then the output is looking good. Interestingly, the BBC have tweeted that if 30c is reached today it would be the earliest that's been achieved for a decade.
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Ally Pally Snowman
10 June 2023 09:25:06

If you a fan of warm weather then the output is looking good. Interestingly, the BBC have tweeted that if 30c is reached today it would be the earliest that's been achieved for a decade.

Originally Posted by: overland 



Yes I saw that since 2012 which was a very unremarkable Summer in general. 

Already over 25c in places so a good chance today. 
 
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doctormog
10 June 2023 10:01:53

Yes I saw that since 2012 which was a very unremarkable Summer in general. 

Already over 25c in places so a good chance today. 
 

Originally Posted by: Ally Pally Snowman 



Interestingly that 30 (30.9°C) was in May and in Scotland.
Brian Gaze
10 June 2023 10:06:04
UKV is suggesting the possibility that temps will reach 30C for 5 consecutive days. I imagine that would be an unusual event during the first half of June. 
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Tim A
10 June 2023 12:13:16

If you're a fan of warm weather then the output is looking good. Interestingly, the BBC have tweeted that if 30c is reached today it would be the earliest that's been achieved for a decade.

Originally Posted by: overland 


Heathrow and Northolt have now hit 30c today.
Tim
NW Leeds
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Ally Pally Snowman
10 June 2023 12:15:49

Heathrow and Northolt have now hit 30c today.

Originally Posted by: Tim A 



Looking like 32c is possible later. Another win for the UKV model.
 
Bishop's Stortford 85m ASL.
Jiries
10 June 2023 13:23:23

Looking like 32c is possible later. Another win for the UKV model.
 

Originally Posted by: Ally Pally Snowman 



UKV must be right because they took account the ground had been very dry so that help to shoot the temps to 32C?  If so that would be amazing after London suffered very cool to cold weeks recently.  Here 27C and app keep insisting cloudy but in reality warm and sunny, expecting 28C today.
Jiries
10 June 2023 13:25:32

UKV must be right because they took account the ground had been very dry so that help to shoot the temps to 32C?  If so that would be amazing after London suffered very cool to cold weeks recently.  Here 28C and app keep insisting cloudy but in reality warm and sunny, expecting 29C or perhaps 30C if possible.

Originally Posted by: Jiries 

Ally Pally Snowman
10 June 2023 14:03:10

UKV must be right because they took account the ground had been very dry so that help to shoot the temps to 32C?  If so that would be amazing after London suffered very cool to cold weeks recently.  Here 27C and app keep insisting cloudy but in reality warm and sunny, expecting 28C today.

Originally Posted by: Jiries 



I was thinking that its strange for all models even usually very good ones like Arpege have so undercooked the maxes.
 
Bishop's Stortford 85m ASL.
Ally Pally Snowman
10 June 2023 14:18:08
31.2c in Charlwood at 3pm hottest so far. Date record is 31.7c from 1970 so likely to go.
Bishop's Stortford 85m ASL.
Bolty
10 June 2023 14:27:12
GFS very warm today. Even if it does turn more unsettled later in the run, it never really has any properly cool air setting in. Very warm and dry transitioning to warm and showery/thundery, sums it up.

I wonder if we're in with the chance of the warmest June since 1976?
Scott
Blackrod, Lancashire (4 miles south of Chorley) at 156m asl.
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Brian Gaze
10 June 2023 14:55:16
It's amazing how easily 30C is reached these days. 
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Jiries
10 June 2023 14:55:17

I was thinking that its strange for all models even usually very good ones like Arpege have so undercooked the maxes.
 

Originally Posted by: Ally Pally Snowman 


GFS was good last year heatwave but this time not good, other charts showing 29-30C over Birmingham area was correct as is now 29C in Nuneaton so hat off to them.
fairweather
10 June 2023 15:02:37
Maxed out at 27.8C here. Getting sticky and oppressive but pleased to get shot of the cloud. Heading for a record dry spell as well at this rate.
S.Essex, 42m ASL

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