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Polar Low
09 July 2013 16:55:44

so many changes thou u have to question even each opp run at mo even ecm mean up and down like crazy let alone each model agreeement seems to have flu and bad head trying to sort that energy into scadi, anyway we have many days of good weather to come some days very hot in south. and set fair in the reliable we good summer days to come.

Rob K
09 July 2013 16:57:03

Friday and Saturday looking pretty hot after a cooler day on Thursday for many. A bit cooler again by Sunday.

Originally Posted by: Matty H 


The 30s and 31s have gone though. Starting to think we won't get a 30C from this spell after all.


Yateley, NE Hampshire, 73m asl
"But who wants to be foretold the weather? It is bad enough when it comes, without our having the misery of knowing about it beforehand." — Jerome K. Jerome
LeedsLad123
09 July 2013 16:59:55


Friday and Saturday looking pretty hot after a cooler day on Thursday for many. A bit cooler again by Sunday.

Originally Posted by: Rob K 


The 30s and 31s have gone though. Starting to think we won't get a 30C from this spell after all.


Originally Posted by: Matty H 


I'm not so sure - GFS has a tendency to undercook temperatures, as was the case yesterday and today, by a very significant margin for some areas, plus the fact that it's just one run and will inevitably be different come the 18z. I think 30C is still possible in Yorkshire on Friday (our local weather has mentioned 30C, they showed 27C and said themselves that it was a very conservative estimate), and then again on Saturday in the South.


Whitkirk, Leeds - 85m ASL.
Polar Low
09 July 2013 17:05:39

gm also has a very very bad head tonight trying to sort energy out


http://www.meteociel.fr/modeles/geme_cartes.php?&ech=174&mode=0&carte=1


it makes a lot of difference with what we all get.

RavenCraven
09 July 2013 17:06:17


CFS still wanting a cold winter


http://modeles.meteociel.fr/modeles/cfs/run/monthly/cfs-3-1-2014.png?18


 


All 3 months below average today.


Greenland highs becoming a very common theme. 


Originally Posted by: Quantum 


 


Genius! 


In the meantime, it looks to remain extremely summery, and well above average. 

Gooner
09 July 2013 17:08:33


Friday and Saturday looking pretty hot after a cooler day on Thursday for many. A bit cooler again by Sunday.

Originally Posted by: Rob K 


The 30s and 31s have gone though. Starting to think we won't get a 30C from this spell after all.


Originally Posted by: Matty H 


Do you mean IYBY Rob?


30c was recorded at S Newington during the weekend.


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Marcus
Banbury
North Oxfordshire
378 feet A S L


Polar Low
09 July 2013 17:11:38

30c last weekend here Marcus but nowt said,,,  posted in heatwave thread




Friday and Saturday looking pretty hot after a cooler day on Thursday for many. A bit cooler again by Sunday.

Originally Posted by: Gooner 


The 30s and 31s have gone though. Starting to think we won't get a 30C from this spell after all.


Originally Posted by: Rob K 


Do you mean IYBY Rob?


30c was recorded at S Newington during the weekend.


Originally Posted by: Matty H 

Gooner
09 July 2013 17:11:39

http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Rtavn3841.png


http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Rtavn38417.png


HP stays in charge throughout


Remember anything after T120 is really Just For Fun



Marcus
Banbury
North Oxfordshire
378 feet A S L


LeedsLad123
09 July 2013 17:20:05



Friday and Saturday looking pretty hot after a cooler day on Thursday for many. A bit cooler again by Sunday.

Originally Posted by: Gooner 


The 30s and 31s have gone though. Starting to think we won't get a 30C from this spell after all.


Originally Posted by: Rob K 


Do you mean IYBY Rob?


30c was recorded at S Newington during the weekend.


Originally Posted by: Matty H 


Was it?! The Met did not mention it.


Whitkirk, Leeds - 85m ASL.
Rob K
09 July 2013 17:22:40




Friday and Saturday looking pretty hot after a cooler day on Thursday for many. A bit cooler again by Sunday.

Originally Posted by: LeedsLad123 


The 30s and 31s have gone though. Starting to think we won't get a 30C from this spell after all.


Originally Posted by: Gooner 


Do you mean IYBY Rob?


30c was recorded at S Newington during the weekend.


Originally Posted by: Rob K 


Was it?! The Met did not mention it.


Originally Posted by: Matty H 


AFAIK the maximum official temp this year so far is 29.7C at Bournemouth (Hurn) on Sunday.


That is what the Met Office are saying anyway:



Weather report — New Scotland Maximum Temperatures for 2013


Scotland have seen their highest maximum temperature of the year so far for the second day running. On Monday 8 July, Glasgow Bishopton reached 27.6 C. So far, on Tuesday 9 July, this has been exceeded at Edinburgh Royal Botanical Gardens with 28.0 C, Edinburgh Gogerbank with 28.5 C and Strathallan Airfield with 28.7 C. For the UK as a whole, the 29.7 C reached at Bournemouth Hurn on Sunday 7 July still stands as the maximum UK temperature for 2013.


 


http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/public/weather/observations/#?tab=last24hours&fcTime=1373238000


 


If you meant South Newington, I can't see anything close to 30C over the weekend here: http://www.weathercast.co.uk/world-weather/weather-stations/obsid/99166.html


Yateley, NE Hampshire, 73m asl
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Gooner
09 July 2013 17:52:29





Friday and Saturday looking pretty hot after a cooler day on Thursday for many. A bit cooler again by Sunday.

Originally Posted by: Rob K 


The 30s and 31s have gone though. Starting to think we won't get a 30C from this spell after all.


Originally Posted by: LeedsLad123 


Do you mean IYBY Rob?


30c was recorded at S Newington during the weekend.


Originally Posted by: Gooner 


Was it?! The Met did not mention it.


Originally Posted by: Rob K 


AFAIK the maximum official temp this year so far is 29.7C at Bournemouth (Hurn) on Sunday.


That is what the Met Office are saying anyway:



Weather report — New Scotland Maximum Temperatures for 2013


Scotland have seen their highest maximum temperature of the year so far for the second day running. On Monday 8 July, Glasgow Bishopton reached 27.6 C. So far, on Tuesday 9 July, this has been exceeded at Edinburgh Royal Botanical Gardens with 28.0 C, Edinburgh Gogerbank with 28.5 C and Strathallan Airfield with 28.7 C. For the UK as a whole, the 29.7 C reached at Bournemouth Hurn on Sunday 7 July still stands as the maximum UK temperature for 2013.

Originally Posted by: Matty H 


 


http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/public/weather/observations/#?tab=last24hours&fcTime=1373238000


 


If you meant South Newington, I can't see anything close to 30C over the weekend here: http://www.weathercast.co.uk/world-weather/weather-stations/obsid/99166.html



I will get the guys name, he sends his data into the met, S Newington was on one of the Beebs forecasts last winter .


Remember anything after T120 is really Just For Fun



Marcus
Banbury
North Oxfordshire
378 feet A S L


Essan
09 July 2013 18:03:14



Friday and Saturday looking pretty hot after a cooler day on Thursday for many. A bit cooler again by Sunday.

Originally Posted by: Gooner 


The 30s and 31s have gone though. Starting to think we won't get a 30C from this spell after all.


Originally Posted by: Rob K 


Do you mean IYBY Rob?


30c was recorded at S Newington during the weekend.


Originally Posted by: Matty H 



South Newington hasn't been above 27c

http://www.weathercast.co.uk/world-weather/weather-stations/obsid/99166.html

No official station has reported 30c yet - although it's possible that one that does not report daily may have done so.  I'll be surprised if nowhere hits 30c this month though.


Andy
Evesham, Worcs, Albion - 35m asl
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Ally Pally Snowman
09 July 2013 18:19:22

Big flip from the 6z. The 12z keeps it warm and dry for 16 days.


http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/MT8_London_ens.png


Bishop's Stortford 85m ASL.
bledur
09 July 2013 18:26:02

yes with nao and ao in neutral for the next 10 days major change seems unlikely . just the threat of showers saturday from a shortwave trough and again monday-tuesday before the azores ridge builds again. just the outside chance of the ridge not building and troughs toppling over and becoming cooler and more unsettled

GIBBY
09 July 2013 19:52:36

Hi folks. A little late but here is the latest report on the midday outputs from GFS, UKMO, GEM, NAVGEM and ECM for this evening Tuesday July 9th 2013.


All models show the weather remaining set fair for the following 4-5 days as High pressure controls the UK weather positioned close to the NW and later West of the UK with a ridge maintained over Southern Britain. A few weak troughs will bring an increase of cloud at times tomorrow with somewhat lower temperatures and again on Saturday when an odd heavy shower could be sparked. It's not until we move into next week when some changes begin to take shape.


GFS shows next week as a largely settled affair too with High pressure down to the SW building back North and NE later in the week with fine and warm conditions for all following somewhat cooler conditions with the odd shower here and there for a time in the North and East. Late in the run little changes with only the end frame showing any sign of any significant change in the North and West with a cold front knocking on the door to the West.


The GFS Ensembles show good support from most members of  High pressure never being far away from UK shores either to the West or NW with fine and dry weather dominant though not as warm as currently with any rainfall restricted to more Northern areas.


The Jet Stream is show to sink South from Northern waters in four or five days time to a position over the UK before it tends to weaken and dissipate later.


UKMO tonight continues to look more changeable at the close of it's run with a trough crossing East over Britain next Monday with a band of rain likely followed by clearer and more showery weather and probably rather fresher air too for a while.


GEM tonight shows a cooler NW flow too early next week before High pressure to the SW builds back later in the week with dry and warmer weather returning to most by the end of the week.


NAVGEM tonight shows a nose of High pressure close to the SW over the weekend and start of next week ridging North later. the UK would lie in a slack Northerly flow with a lot of dry and fine weather with the odd thundery shower just about possible too for a time.


ECM keeps High pressure down to the SW with the best of the conditions always here while areas further to the North and East would see cloudier skies, certainly more so than of late with the chance of a little rain too at times as weak fronts pass SE through the UK. Though still quite warm at times in the south and west average temperatures look more likely in the North and East especially under the cloudy periods.


In Summary tonight the models seem to be firming up on a trend to less hot conditions for many areas from the start of next week. The weather never looks like turning desperately cool or wet with just a gentle moderation of temperatures towards levels close to or just above the average in the South next week and still rather warm at times in the SW. The average temperatures of the North and East could be accompanied by occasional rain as weak fronts drift SE in the general NW flow. 


Martin G
Kilmersdon Radstock Bath Somerset



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briggsy6
09 July 2013 20:16:43

Oh dear, looks like the days of this warm settled spell are well and truly numbered. Make the most of the next five days people!


Location: Uxbridge
moomin75
09 July 2013 20:19:00


Oh dear, looks like the days of this warm settled spell are well and truly numbered. Make the most of the next five days people!


Originally Posted by: briggsy6 

Not really. Just a moderation of what we have.


Nothing particularly unsettled on the horizon. For me, perfect summer weather, temps around 20-22C with sunny spells, while admitedly always a bit more unsettled further north.


Don't think people should get hung up on specifics at this range. The next week is looking dry, sunny and warm or very warm.


After that, it MAY moderate slightly, but equally, it may not.


I wouldn't be at all surprised if this spell is extended beyond 7-10 days, but time will tell.


Witney, Oxfordshire
100m ASL
Matty H
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09 July 2013 20:24:56
To put a little realism on things; if it were this time last year and we had a spell coming up like later next week, let alone what we've just had and will continue to have for several more days at least, we would all be turning cartwheels of delight*






*apart from Retron, obviously.
David M Porter
09 July 2013 20:26:10


Hi folks. A little late but here is the latest report on the midday outputs from GFS, UKMO, GEM, NAVGEM and ECM for this evening Tuesday July 9th 2013.


All models show the weather remaining set fair for the following 4-5 days as High pressure controls the UK weather positioned close to the NW and later West of the UK with a ridge maintained over Southern Britain. A few weak troughs will bring an increase of cloud at times tomorrow with somewhat lower temperatures and again on Saturday when an odd heavy shower could be sparked. It's not until we move into next week when some changes begin to take shape.


GFS shows next week as a largely settled affair too with High pressure down to the SW building back North and NE later in the week with fine and warm conditions for all following somewhat cooler conditions with the odd shower here and there for a time in the North and East. Late in the run little changes with only the end frame showing any sign of any significant change in the North and West with a cold front knocking on the door to the West.


The GFS Ensembles show good support from most members of  High pressure never being far away from UK shores either to the West or NW with fine and dry weather dominant though not as warm as currently with any rainfall restricted to more Northern areas.


The Jet Stream is show to sink South from Northern waters in four or five days time to a position over the UK before it tends to weaken and dissipate later.


UKMO tonight continues to look more changeable at the close of it's run with a trough crossing East over Britain next Monday with a band of rain likely followed by clearer and more showery weather and probably rather fresher air too for a while.


GEM tonight shows a cooler NW flow too early next week before High pressure to the SW builds back later in the week with dry and warmer weather returning to most by the end of the week.


NAVGEM tonight shows a nose of High pressure close to the SW over the weekend and start of next week ridging North later. the UK would lie in a slack Northerly flow with a lot of dry and fine weather with the odd thundery shower just about possible too for a time.


ECM keeps High pressure down to the SW with the best of the conditions always here while areas further to the North and East would see cloudier skies, certainly more so than of late with the chance of a little rain too at times as weak fronts pass SE through the UK. Though still quite warm at times in the south and west average temperatures look more likely in the North and East especially under the cloudy periods.


In Summary tonight the models seem to be firming up on a trend to less hot conditions for many areas from the start of next week. The weather never looks like turning desperately cool or wet with just a gentle moderation of temperatures towards levels close to or just above the average in the South next week and still rather warm at times in the SW. The average temperatures of the North and East could be accompanied by occasional rain as weak fronts drift SE in the general NW flow. 


Originally Posted by: GIBBY 


Thanks Martin. Looks pretty decent generally speaking, and certainly couldn't be more different what we were getting a year ago, as Matty has alluded to above.


Lenzie, Glasgow

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Rob K
09 July 2013 20:28:15


Oh dear, looks like the days of this warm settled spell are well and truly numbered. Make the most of the next five days people!


Originally Posted by: briggsy6 


Not really. The Met Office extended outlook suggest fine, settled warm weather over the bulk of the country until at least early August. That's four weeks of good summer weather. Hardly anything to complain about! 


Yateley, NE Hampshire, 73m asl
"But who wants to be foretold the weather? It is bad enough when it comes, without our having the misery of knowing about it beforehand." — Jerome K. Jerome
Steam Fog
09 July 2013 20:29:10

Oh dear, looks like the days of this warm settled spell are well and truly numbered. Make the most of the next five days people!

Originally Posted by: briggsy6 



Still looks generally fine for many.
David M Porter
09 July 2013 20:30:44

To put a little realism on things; if it were this time last year and we had a spell coming up like later next week, let alone what we've just had and will continue to have for several more days at least, we would all be turning cartwheels of delight*






*apart from Retron, obviously.

Originally Posted by: Matty H 


Indeed Matty. The only time last summer that we had anything close to as good as this in my area was in the first full week of August, and unfortunately once that ended the weather was as wet and miserable as it had been before. Utterly dire.


Lenzie, Glasgow

"Let us not take ourselves too seriously. None of us has a monopoly on wisdom, and we must always be ready to listen and respect other points of view."- Queen Elizabeth II 1926-2022
moomin75
09 July 2013 20:36:34

To put a little realism on things; if it were this time last year and we had a spell coming up like later next week, let alone what we've just had and will continue to have for several more days at least, we would all be turning cartwheels of delight*






*apart from Retron, obviously.

Originally Posted by: Matty H 


Hear hear Matty. The synoptics over the next 10-14 days are a million miles away from the bilge we have endured in recent years.


A spell of very pleasant mid-summer weather coming up pretty much as far as the eye can see.


Certainly no signs of an imminent deluge....and long may that continue.


Even in the best summers, we have spells of rain and cooler conditions, and we still have 3 weeks of July, the whole of August, and the best part of September which are all more than capable of delivering summer weather.


Witney, Oxfordshire
100m ASL
nickl
09 July 2013 20:46:54

i hope the pendulum swings back again tomorrow. the ecm ens mean is not good in fi. however, i think naefs may look a bit better (though i cant see gem 12z ens so have no idea how much they may dilute the decent looking gefs).

moomin75
09 July 2013 20:53:24


i hope the pendulum swings back again tomorrow. the ecm ens mean is not good in fi. however, i think naefs may look a bit better (though i cant see gem 12z ens so have no idea how much they may dilute the decent looking gefs).


Originally Posted by: nickl 

The ECM ensemble mean is not GREAT in FI, but it's not bad either, certainly in the south.


It shows warm weather persisting, with possible showers around, but certainly nothing terrible.


Witney, Oxfordshire
100m ASL

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