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Gooner
21 January 2014 08:59:54

http://modeles.meteociel.fr/modeles/gfs/runs/2014012100/gfsnh-10-276.png?0


Warming predicted for the start of Feb........................straw


Remember anything after T120 is really Just For Fun



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roger63
21 January 2014 09:29:17

Main observations of GEFS 0h


-Keeps Atlantic at bay  for aday or so longer than METO


-Diving LP scenario but again relatively short livednot as clear cut as ECM


-In short not much continuity in the ENS  but  betwen 144 and 240h a coldish look including some very  tasty ENS


http://www.meteociel.fr/modeles/gefs_cartes.php?ech=192&code=14&mode=0&carte=0


http://www.meteociel.fr/modeles/gefs_cartes.php?ech=192&code=15&mode=0&carte=0


http://www.meteociel.fr/modeles/gefs_cartes.php?ech=192&code=16&mode=0&carte=0


http://www.meteociel.fr/modeles/gefs_cartes.php?ech=192&code=19&mode=0&carte=0


 

Charmhills
21 January 2014 09:52:46

Very unsettled outlook and often quite wet with snow over northern hills later in FI where it could turn colder.....


Same story all winter so far.


 


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The Beast from the East
21 January 2014 10:18:15

So far so good


http://modeles.meteociel.fr/modeles/gfs/runs/2014012106/gfsnh-0-144.png?6


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The Beast from the East
21 January 2014 10:20:10

http://modeles.meteociel.fr/modeles/gfs/runs/2014012106/gfs-2-54.png?6


Thursday could surprise a few



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tallyho_83
21 January 2014 10:28:30


http://modeles.meteociel.fr/modeles/gfs/runs/2014012106/gfs-2-54.png?6


Thursday could surprise a few



Originally Posted by: The Beast from the East 


 


But north of M4 and before turning back to rain:


http://cdn.nwstatic.co.uk/gfsimages/gfs.20140121/06/54/prectypeuktopo.png


 


 


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Matty H
21 January 2014 10:31:03

http://modeles.meteociel.fr/modeles/gfs/runs/2014012106/gfs-2-54.png?6


Thursday could surprise a few


Originally Posted by: The Beast from the East 



Not being given a shred of credence in the tv forecasts though.
roger63
21 January 2014 10:41:57

http://www.meteociel.fr/modeles/gfse_cartes.php?&ech=216&mode=0


Groundhog day.A week on from this Friday a remarkably similar picture of a col beween,Azores HP,Atlantic and Scandi HP


Also GFS 06hop backs down from any easterly flow around sinking LP.

idj20
21 January 2014 11:05:26

The Altantic wakes up from it's catnap. Sun noontime: http://www.weatheronline.co.uk/cgi-bin/expertcharts?LANG=en&MENU=0000000000&CONT=ukuk&MODELL=gfs&MODELLTYP=1&BASE=201401210600&VAR=pslv&HH=126&ZOOM=0&ARCHIV=0&RES=0&WMO=&PERIOD=

Looks like Northern and Western parts are set to bear the brunt with strong gales and heavy (wintry in places) showers on Monday and through into Tuesday once the obligatory leading gusty-type warm front passes through on Sunday. Not needed where people are still picking up the pieces and patching everything together from the last time. Mind you, if this system does decide to kick up a fuss as planned, at least it does appear to concide with neap tides.
  By then, Southern and Eastern parts are usually on the "lee" side of it all with the best of the clear skies.

This low pressure system looks like being nailed on, even at six days away. From here on it'll all be in the fine tuning as we get nearer to the time.  Although, having said that, this one is unusual in it's own right as deepening Icelandic-type low pressure systems usually curve to the left, but thanks to that Scandy block this one is shown as stopping in it's tracks while to the north of the UK and then head southwards and (hopefully) fill in doing so. Even ECM is thinking in a similar line (just a little bit to the west).
 

Anything beyond that then becomes educated guesswork territory.


Folkestone Harbour. 
21 January 2014 11:07:40

http://modeles.meteociel.fr/modeles/gfs/runs/2014012106/gfs-2-54.png?6


Thursday could surprise a few


Originally Posted by: Matty H 



Not being given a shred of credence in the tv forecasts though.

Originally Posted by: The Beast from the East 



BBC Weather, def forecasting rain, no mention of sleet/snow showers or a transient event. ...
KevBrads1
21 January 2014 11:21:30

http://modeles.meteociel.fr/modeles/gfs/runs/2014012106/gfs-2-54.png?6


Thursday could surprise a few


Originally Posted by: VIRTUAL STORMCHASER 



Not being given a shred of credence in the tv forecasts though.

Originally Posted by: Matty H 



BBC Weather, def forecasting rain, no mention of sleet/snow showers or a transient event. ...

Originally Posted by: The Beast from the East 



Matt Hugo mentions a possibility on twitter

"This occlusion heading E (the 2nd one) on Thu may well bring some snow as it moves through N Eng northwards"


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GlenH
21 January 2014 11:46:10

Fax chart certainly looking wintry around here on thursday.


A pair of occluded fronts and sub 528dam air:


 


http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/brack1a.gif


 


 


 

The Beast from the East
21 January 2014 11:59:17

http://www.weathercast.co.uk/services/ensemble-forecast.html


Ensembles are actually rather poor and show a warming trend. So not much chance of the Arctic High doing much of interest


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The Beast from the East
21 January 2014 12:06:06

NAVGEM takes the prize today!


http://modeles.meteociel.fr/modeles/navgem/runs/2014012106/navgemnh-0-144.png?21-11


 


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Quantum
21 January 2014 12:23:49


http://www.weathercast.co.uk/services/ensemble-forecast.html


Ensembles are actually rather poor and show a warming trend. So not much chance of the Arctic High doing much of interest


Originally Posted by: The Beast from the East 


The arctic high has never been the problem, in fact throughout this winter its been pretty well placed particularly this month. In fact it looks somewhat better placed than last year and similar to 2010! The issue is, and always apparantly has been, cold air from canada mixing from warm tropical air causing massive cyclogenesis, so while the arctic high is good and there is evidence of both strong, northern and midlatitude blocking, we still have a strong jet which is fairly flat from newfoundland to england.


But


http://www.ospo.noaa.gov/data/sst/anomaly/2014/anomnight.1.20.2014.gif


I am optimistic that we will start to see some sea ice forming on that east coast soon, and there is a notable tripole in terms of SST with distinct warm-cold-warm bands. This is effectivly a negative feedback that is only just starting to come into play, in a few weeks that area may be ice covered and cyclosis could suddenly happen and when it does provided the arctic doesn't screw up in the meantime (hey it probably will!) we will get cold weather here.  


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Total: 8 days with snow/sleet falling.

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Total: 12 days with snow/sleet falling.
Gooner
21 January 2014 13:55:34

P12 Gives us some great blocking


http://modeles.meteociel.fr/modeles/gens/run/gensnh-12-1-312.png?6


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Gavin P
21 January 2014 13:57:34

Hi all


Here's todays video update;


Will Low Pressure Dive South Next Week?


http://www.gavsweathervids.com


Models flirting with the idea of an increasingly cool and wintry week, but call me dubious give we've been here before this January with the "cut-off" low idea.


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Hungry Tiger
21 January 2014 14:13:18


Hi all


Here's todays video update;


Will Low Pressure Dive South Next Week?


http://www.gavsweathervids.com


Models flirting with the idea of an increasingly cool and wintry week, but call me dubious give we've been here before this January with the "cut-off" low idea.


Originally Posted by: Gavin P 



It is beginning to seem like we're being teased in the most detailed way wrt to any very cold weather.


I recall one winter when a spell of -10C and lower was very much on the cards and the Atlantic kicked it away. I can't remember exactly what year it was.


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colin46
21 January 2014 14:21:12

The fat lady is limbering up!!


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Gavin P
21 January 2014 16:09:15



Hi all


Here's todays video update;


Will Low Pressure Dive South Next Week?


http://www.gavsweathervids.com


Models flirting with the idea of an increasingly cool and wintry week, but call me dubious give we've been here before this January with the "cut-off" low idea.


Originally Posted by: Hungry Tiger 



It is beginning to seem like we're being teased in the most detailed way wrt to any very cold weather.


I recall one winter when a spell of -10C and lower was very much on the cards and the Atlantic kicked it away. I can't remember exactly what year it was.


Originally Posted by: Gavin P 


Probably January 2005?


This spell


http://www.wetterzentrale.de/archive/ra/2005/Rrea00120050127.gif 


Caused a meltdown on the forums when it went down the pan just 72hrs away.


There was a LOT of bitterness and emotion as I recall.


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The Beast from the East
21 January 2014 16:22:38

http://modeles.meteociel.fr/modeles/gfs/runs/2014012112/gfsnh-0-150.png?12


We have a slider, well done NAVGEM for being the first to pick it!


 


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David M Porter
21 January 2014 16:22:57




Hi all


Here's todays video update;


Will Low Pressure Dive South Next Week?


http://www.gavsweathervids.com


Models flirting with the idea of an increasingly cool and wintry week, but call me dubious give we've been here before this January with the "cut-off" low idea.


Originally Posted by: Gavin P 



It is beginning to seem like we're being teased in the most detailed way wrt to any very cold weather.


I recall one winter when a spell of -10C and lower was very much on the cards and the Atlantic kicked it away. I can't remember exactly what year it was.


Originally Posted by: Hungry Tiger 


Probably January 2005?


This spell


http://www.wetterzentrale.de/archive/ra/2005/Rrea00120050127.gif 


Caused a meltdown on the forums when it went down the pan just 72hrs away.


There was a LOT of bitterness and emotion as I recall.


Originally Posted by: Gavin P 


I think it was early that February when Andy Woodcock made his famous "winter is over" post on the forum just as the models were indicating the atlantic coming back in and (we thought) seemingly scuppering any chance of a cold spell. But a cold spell did come- it was just a bit later in February than the models had first suggested.


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The Beast from the East
21 January 2014 16:24:06

http://www.meteociel.fr/ukmo/runs/2014012112/UN144-21.GIF?21-17


not bad


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The Beast from the East
21 January 2014 16:31:13

http://modeles.meteociel.fr/modeles/gfs/runs/2014012112/gfsnh-1-180.png?12


from an atlantic source, about as cold as it gets.


Fegusson says the trough will push through quicker like UKMO and unlikely to disrupt like GFS


 


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