-10 uppers clipping the s/e on that gfs run 

However ECM is quite different, we will see what transpires but nothing to get excited about at all IMO. Probably a reflection of how desperate things have become.

Is anyone getting 'excited'?   No evidence of that in here; most contributors are level-headed enough to understand that charts 6 days ahead will change.

I'm amused that your first approach was to argue the front would fizzle out & then, when that's dealt with, you switch your line of argument....

As Darren says, ECM shows snow; it's just the precise positioning.  Time will tell - snow, rain or nothing at all. Let's not forget that the detail for this weekend has changed a lot in the last 48 hours, never mind 6 days.

Yes nobody is getting too excited over here, I was actually reading the hyperbole from Mr Murr on the other side before posting 

No it does not Ian it shows the same feature at around that time on close inspection

Sunday Night and Monday a.m. Has good potential, SE England and also Scotland as well, as long as the Cold Trof's get colder than 2 or 3 deg C at Land Surface-!Even early Tuesday Far SE has a NE flow from Norway Denmark.

Hopefully Brian G will update the Buzz later today for Sunday to Tuesday.

I also enjoying looking at very cold NE USA - they had light snow- but had snow showers 36-48 hrs ago. This rain for South Coast today, with Central parts West to E maxing at 5 or 6 today, min. -2.4 2 miles NE of me last Wednesday night and Thursday night upto 06:00 it dropped to 0 celsius, The bbc Weather say mins of 3 or 4 tonight, but by Sunday night reach back to low of 2 Celsius with a sleet shower.

The models are not without interest this morning. The NE'ly flow on Monday / Tuesday here in the far SE corner is looking colder with 850Hpa temperatures now around -8c to -9c meaning that snow is a possibility provided convection kicks in down here with elevation above say 120 metres or so. Good news for the kids who are snow starved but on half term next week !

Thursday is a long way off but potential is there for a significant snow event somewhere in the UK as a trough disrupts sliding SE'wards in a self developed cold pool thanks to an anticyclone preceeding it.

Unusual pattern anyway. Cold just holding on all week for the south at least. perhaps we can get a northerly later

http://modeles.meteociel.fr/modeles/gfs/runs/2016021206/gfsnh-0-180.png?6

That high to the south on this morning's ECM (240hrs) looks a bit fishy to be honest.

http://modeles.meteociel.fr/modeles/gfs/runs/2016021206/gfsnh-1-204.png?6

continental style feel for the south east. Faux surface cold.

http://modeles.meteociel.fr/modeles/gfs/runs/2016021206/gfsnh-0-216.png?6

a cold run for the south east as we become an extension of mainland Europe. a modern winter version of feb 86 perhaps!

Too early to call mid next week. Looks interesting and there's a reasonable chance of more widespread snow. IMO (as I said on the homepage) it's not the favoured outcome at the moment but the odds will change for better or worse in the coming days. 

I think someone was talking about the Alps. There's been loads of new snow in recent days and the outlook is for loads more. Here's the forecast 5 day accumulation!

That was me 

The resort I am going to (Chatel) is pretty low (only about 1000m) so at village level it will likely be fluctuating between rain and snow for some of the time. Looks good for the upper slopes of the Portes du Soleil region though!

And right now it is snowing even in the village:

http://m.webcam-hd.com/chatel/village

Closer to home, the latest GFS could scupper the chance of the mildest-ever winter record... which would be a shame. If it's going to be so mild it may as well be a record-breaker!

http://modeles7.meteociel.fr/modeles/gens/runs/2016021206/gensnh-0-1-144.png

Nice GFS control so far

I went there when I was a student. There was no snow at all at resort level but plenty higher up in the Portes du Soleil. Good hols although TBH the snow and skiing were a secondary interest on the whole. 

http://modeles7.meteociel.fr/modeles/gens/runs/2016021206/gens-5-1-162.png

pert 5 please

http://modeles7.meteociel.fr/modeles/gens/runs/2016021206/gens-15-1-168.png

this one is the best.

out to 168, most of the GEFS are rather good in terms of scandi blocking

Interesting GEFS6z. Next week's snow risk showing up but much too early to be confident about this suggested 35% to 40% chance. 

That's the ensemble mean chart not the operational one

That will deliver double-digit temperatures and some sunshine for the south and would feel springlike.

UKMO 144hr with front and approx 850hpa -5C isotherm overlay. Snow potential?

Hmmm... MildSectorCity

I've little hopes for snow over the coming week. Even the GFS runs have the western couple dozen miles of NW England under rain.

Eugh.

Oh lord back the other way we go... I'm holding out for a stonking pub run later on when I get back from said pub!! (Wishful thinking I know)...