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Weathermac
05 August 2018 10:35:36


 


Longer term signals look better though. Silly to write the month off when it’s only the 5th.


Originally Posted by: superteacher 


Yes looking like a few days of more unsettled weather with modest rainfall before a resurgence of high pressure in about 10daysor so...this summer is not finished yet.

Sevendust
05 August 2018 10:37:53


Longer term signals look better though. Silly to write the month off when it’s only the 5th.


Originally Posted by: superteacher 


A week is a long time in model terms and even in the Meto outlook they allude to returning heat potential especially as the treatment of unsettled Atlantic interludes has been over-bullish throughout. 

Saint Snow
05 August 2018 10:43:13


Looks like the heatwave is finally ending. I always thought the chance of three hot dry summer months on the bounce was pretty remote. Back to typical unsettled weather for all by the weekend.


Originally Posted by: briggsy6 


 


Albeit May is a spring month, but many parts of the UK had 3 great 'summer  months.


I'd prefer them to be the 3 actual summer months, but it's still been the best summer since 1995 IMO.


 


 



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05 August 2018 10:45:56

Fairly good agreement on the general trend from the various operational runs at the moment - which is a return to more average conditions


http://www.wetterzentrale.de/de/show_diagrams.php?model=multi&var=2&geoid=49069&lid=OP&bw=


But the GFS ENS are a complete spaghetti mix after next weekend - with a slight bias towards above average conditions. We had this just before the last breakdown after which a warming trend reemerged. At this point impossible to say what will happen in the second half of the month.


http://www.wetterzentrale.de/de/show_diagrams.php?model=gfs&var=2&geoid=49069&lid=ENS&bw=

johncs2016
05 August 2018 11:39:42
There is a good amount of blue sky around, but with only a little bit of sunshine at times which means that a total of just 1.7 hours of sunshine has been recorded for today so far at Edinburgh Gogarbank as at 12 noon.

It's also not all that warm and so, the temperature at 12 noon was 17.6°C at Edinburgh Gogarbank, 18°C at Edinburgh Airport and 18.1°C at the botanic gardens in Edinburgh.

The north of Edinburgh, usually always missing out on snow events which occur not just within the rest of Scotland or the UK, but also within the rest of Edinburgh.
Snow Hoper
05 August 2018 19:14:24

ECM looking alright after the weekend and towards the middle of next week.


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David M Porter
05 August 2018 19:15:54


ECM looking alright after the weekend and towards the middle of next week.


Originally Posted by: Snow Hoper 


Indeed, and it looks to be building a bit more convincingly on both this evening's and this morning's ECM runs than was the case this weekend.


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White Meadows
05 August 2018 19:35:24


ECM looking alright after the weekend and towards the middle of next week.


Originally Posted by: Snow Hoper 

Sure is.


and as for the GFs that’s 4 control runs in a row showing uppers of between 15-20 degrees from 17th


Seems to be a growing trend.

doctormog
05 August 2018 19:45:35

Yes the 12z ECM op run is great...if you ignore days 3 to 9 


LeedsLad123
05 August 2018 19:49:06


Yes the 12z ECM op run is great...if you ignore days 3 to 9 


Originally Posted by: doctormog 


I see you have decided to replace moomin as the forum's pessimist. 


From what I can gather even the unsettled spell of weather looks largely dry with average temperatures rather than anything particularly bad, with Saturday looking like the only poor day (and that is liable to change). Not a bad outlook imo.


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White Meadows
05 August 2018 19:51:03


Yes the 12z ECM op run is great...if you ignore days 3 to 9 


Originally Posted by: doctormog 

 


depends where you live of course. 


Not saying it’s plain sailing all the way for the south, some rain to come for sure. But huge improvements being shown and cross model hintings for some more heat later on. 

doctormog
05 August 2018 19:54:05


 


I see you have decided to replace moomin as the forum's pessimist. 


From what I can gather even the unsettled spell of weather looks largely dry with average temperatures rather than anything particularly bad, with Saturday looking like the only poor day (and that is liable to change). Not a bad outlook imo.


Originally Posted by: LeedsLad123 


Pessimism? Really? Have you looked at the ECM run? 




LeedsLad123
05 August 2018 20:02:35


 


Pessimism? Really? Have you looked at the ECM run? 




Originally Posted by: doctormog 



I wouldn't have responded to your post if I hadn't looked at it - and on the surface I think most days should be perfectly reasonable. The first chart you posted doesn't look bad at all - the second one looks a bit iffy though. 


At the very least, Wednesday-Friday look okay, with Saturday looking poor, and then Sunday looking better.


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White Meadows
05 August 2018 20:16:32
Pretty grim for Scotland though, especially mid week.
The Beast from the East
05 August 2018 20:29:35

Pretty grim for Scotland though.

Originally Posted by: White Meadows 


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doctormog
05 August 2018 20:41:51


 



I wouldn't have responded to your post if I hadn't looked at it - and on the surface I think most days should be perfectly reasonable. The first chart you posted doesn't look bad at all - the second one looks a bit iffy though. 


At the very least, Wednesday-Friday look okay, with Saturday looking poor, and then Sunday looking better.


Originally Posted by: LeedsLad123 


No, still not seeing any pessimism in my post suggesting that the middle of the run is not great. I guess you just misinterpreted my comment. 


LeedsLad123
05 August 2018 20:50:00


 


No, still not seeing any pessimism in my post suggesting that the middle of the run is not great. I guess you just misinterpreted my comment. 


Originally Posted by: doctormog 


And I don't think anyone was suggesting that the middle of the run is great, but rather highlighting that the ECM run looks alright after the weekend - so your original comment was obviously rather pointless.


I'd save the trolling for people who are actually good at it, doc. 


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Brian Gaze
05 August 2018 20:58:29

The 12z runs have generally "downgraded" the unsettled spell in southern counties. GFS12z op run suggests very little rain here in the next 10 days.



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doctormog
05 August 2018 21:01:14


 


And I don't think anyone was suggesting that the middle of the run is great, but rather highlighting that the ECM run looks alright after the weekend - so your original comment was obviously rather pointless.


I'd save the trolling for people who are actually good at it, doc. 


Originally Posted by: LeedsLad123 


Trolling? 


Yawn 


LeedsLad123
05 August 2018 21:07:40


 


Trolling? 


Yawn 


Originally Posted by: doctormog 


Yawn indeed.


Anyway, the output after next weekend looks alright (and alright means alright, and not great, just in case anyone forgets what certain words mean and responds to something nobody said).


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Polar Low
05 August 2018 21:21:26

Yes Brian worry for the extreme s/e very very dry here tried to dig today just a joke only cut my large grass 4 times since May also gfs spreads show little sign of rain for this area also T2 T Guess you could say rather warm at times it’s been a great summer herecool


http://www.meteociel.fr/modeles/gefs_table.php?x=0&y=0&lat=51.5085&lon=-0.12574&run=12&ext=fr&mode=3&sort=0


http://www.meteociel.fr/modeles/gefs_table.php?x=0&y=0&lat=51.5085&lon=-0.12574&run=12&ext=fr&mode=7&sort=0


 



The 12z runs have generally "downgraded" the unsettled spell in southern counties. GFS12z op run suggests very little rain here in the next 10 days.



Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 

golfingmad
05 August 2018 21:23:11


 


And I don't think anyone was suggesting that the middle of the run is great, but rather highlighting that the ECM run looks alright after the weekend - so your original comment was obviously rather pointless.


I'd save the trolling for people who are actually good at it, doc. 


Originally Posted by: LeedsLad123 


Agreed. The trend in the 12z runs from both ECM and GFS is definitely an upgrade for better conditions at least for the south. By +T240 in both models the recovery is complete and high pressure is once again in command.


In fact high pressure is never that far away from the SW approaches. There is no indication of the jet firmly re-establishing itself over the British Isles, no real indication of the jet digging south. Summer 2018 isn't over yet.


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doctormog
05 August 2018 21:26:56


 


Agreed. The trend in the 12z runs from both ECM and GFS is definitely an upgrade for better conditions at least for the south. By +T240 in both models the recovery is complete and high pressure is once again in command.


In fact high pressure is never that far away from the SW approaches. There is no indication of the jet firmly re-establishing itself over the British Isles, no real indication of the jet digging south. Summer 2018 isn't over yet.


Originally Posted by: golfingmad 


Not over of course, just more normal after the next few days. From the GFS 12z op and quite representative: 


http://wxmaps.org/pix/prec4


http://wxmaps.org/pix/temp4 


haghir22
05 August 2018 22:36:49


Yes Brian worry for the extreme s/e very very dry here tried to dig today just a joke only cut my large grass 4 times since May also gfs spreads show little sign of rain for this area also T2 T Guess you could say rather warm at times it’s been a great summer herecool


http://www.meteociel.fr/modeles/gefs_table.php?x=0&y=0&lat=51.5085&lon=-0.12574&run=12&ext=fr&mode=3&sort=0


http://www.meteociel.fr/modeles/gefs_table.php?x=0&y=0&lat=51.5085&lon=-0.12574&run=12&ext=fr&mode=7&sort=0


 


 


Originally Posted by: Polar Low 


My Parents are in their 80’s and whilst a weird ‘seaweed’ style measure, i cut their grass for them as it slopes quite harshly. I’ve done it twice only this summer as it’s more akin to toast than grass. Anyhow, off topic. Apologies, just a very telling thing for me that personifies this wonderful wonderful summer so far.


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06 August 2018 05:45:20

Successive ridges and troughs moving across UK from Wed for the next few days, any serious rain most likely in N & W, so looks like 'normal' summer conditions - though the fax charts do develop a more intense LP at T+120 in the SW approaches than other models and could give a summer gale.


Perceptions of the coming period could be good if the timing is right and the troughs go through overnight, or not, as the case may be.


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