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Gooner
23 March 2020 12:42:11


The prime minister's spokesman has said to "expect a big communication drive in the coming days".


That has worked so well up to now.


Originally Posted by: Heavy Weather 2013 


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23 March 2020 12:42:44


 


Correction: the official lockdown in Wuhan started on 23 January, so it's exactly 2 months. As mentioned many times China has been too slow and secretive early on, but they really tackled this later on.


Originally Posted by: xioni2 

Although in that case, as the first case in China was mid November, it took them two months to lock down.  That puts us two months behind them, assuming we do lockdown!


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Brian Gaze
23 March 2020 12:43:30

Public Health Wales have announced 71 new confirmed cases +1 on Sundays update

Originally Posted by: Gavin D 


So we've gone from 1000 to 71 per day since Saturday. UK stats must be flakier than Iran's. 


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23 March 2020 12:44:24


Thanks, Caz. And good luck to your hubby


Originally Posted by: Justin W 

  Keep us posted!


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Retron
23 March 2020 12:44:35


 


So we've gone from 1000 to 71 per day since Saturday. UK stats must be flakier than Iran's. 


Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 


Wales isn't the whole of the UK though.


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Retron
23 March 2020 12:45:38

Oh, the head of the Academy Trust has emailed us all. Looks like a rota on the way for teaching staff, but I'd imagine us support staff will be left out. (Apparently they sent all the rank-and-file teachers home at 10:30 this morning, but support staf have to stay all day... so you get a school with a few members of SLT running classes, with a dozen or more support staff sitting in offices.)

I am writing to you directly to thank you for all of your hard work and dedication to the children we are responsible for over this very difficult and challenging times. Many of you have health concerns of your own, and for your families, and this is rightly going to be in the forefront of your minds.

As a Trust we have a responsibility to keep our schools open for students who are vulnerable and for the children of key workers. This offer however is as a last resort. We need to manage this provision in a way which recognises that we have a significant number of vulnerable staff within our own ranks for whom it is not appropriate to attend school during this time.

Today has seen far fewer students attend school than we believed to be likely the case over the weekend. There may well be some more children who do arrive, but it appears that we will be receiving less than 10% of our total number on roll.

In light of this, I have asked all Heads to produce a rota for staff to attend school and provide for those children who are with us over coming weeks until this crisis is at an end. I am asking each of you to notify your head teacher directly if you fall within the category of vulnerable staff, and if so you will be removed from any rota and be expected to work from home instead, subject to your own health needs.

These are challenging times and as an employer we will do whatever practically we can to ensure that no member of staff is placed in harm’s way.


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Gooner
23 March 2020 12:46:50

I'm not expecting a big increase if I'm honest 


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Retron
23 March 2020 12:49:18


I'm not expecting a big increase if I'm honest 


Originally Posted by: Gooner 


I am, assuming we're talking about deaths (which is the stat that matters, given how useless our testing is).


I'd expect today's total to be at least 20% up on yesterday's for example, if not more.


This will go on for at least 2 weeks, given the somewhat lacklustre distancing which is taking place even now.


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23 March 2020 12:49:36


Oh, the head of the Academy Trust has emailed us all. Looks like a rota on the way for teaching staff, but I'd imagine us support staff will be left out. (Apparently they sent all the rank-and-file teachers home at 10:30 this morning, but support staf have to stay all day... so you get a school with a few members of SLT running classes, with a dozen or more support staff sitting in offices.)

I am writing to you directly to thank you for all of your hard work and dedication to the children we are responsible for over this very difficult and challenging times. Many of you have health concerns of your own, and for your families, and this is rightly going to be in the forefront of your minds.

As a Trust we have a responsibility to keep our schools open for students who are vulnerable and for the children of key workers. This offer however is as a last resort. We need to manage this provision in a way which recognises that we have a significant number of vulnerable staff within our own ranks for whom it is not appropriate to attend school during this time.

Today has seen far fewer students attend school than we believed to be likely the case over the weekend. There may well be some more children who do arrive, but it appears that we will be receiving less than 10% of our total number on roll.

In light of this, I have asked all Heads to produce a rota for staff to attend school and provide for those children who are with us over coming weeks until this crisis is at an end. I am asking each of you to notify your head teacher directly if you fall within the category of vulnerable staff, and if so you will be removed from any rota and be expected to work from home instead, subject to your own health needs.

These are challenging times and as an employer we will do whatever practically we can to ensure that no member of staff is placed in harm’s way.


Originally Posted by: Retron 

That doesn’t surprise me, as I said earlier.  There appears to be very few, or no pupils at all, at the school near me and I think that will be the general case. 


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Heavy Weather 2013
23 March 2020 12:50:38


I'm not expecting a big increase if I'm honest 


Originally Posted by: Gooner 


Our testing has been very irratitic and it’s very hard to determine where we stand.


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Gooner
23 March 2020 12:52:23

Sceptical me


But I see the Government being creative with numbers to avoid mass panic 


expecting around 50 again , seems to be an accepted figure ( ish ) 


 


HW - yes its been bloody rubbish considering the situation we find ourselves in


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Maunder Minimum
23 March 2020 12:53:38

This has echoes of the Bubonic Plague - India has started putting stickers on the doors of those self isolating because it is thought they have the virus:


Home quarantined labels issued by the Delhi government 


Indian official stats are as dodgy as those from Iran and China - to get a true picture of the cases in India, it would be necessary to count the doors with red stickers on them as per the above image.


In case you cannot read it, it states "Please Do Not Visit - Home Under Quarantine" with start and end dates, plus the number of infected persons (3 in the above example).


 


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23 March 2020 12:53:43


I am, assuming we're talking about deaths (which is the stat that matters, given how useless our testing is).


I'd expect today's total to be at least 20% up on yesterday's for example, if not more.


This will go on for at least 2 weeks, given the somewhat lacklustre distancing which is taking place even now.


Originally Posted by: Retron 

I don’t think 20% up but I’m expecting a rise and don’t forget we’re only testing those in hospitals.  I also expect this to go on for more than two weeks given the lag time. 


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Brian Gaze
23 March 2020 12:54:22
Trump appears to have cracked. I wonder whether an attempt to remove him will be made?
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23 March 2020 12:55:52


This has echoes of the Bubonic Plague - India has started putting stickers on the doors of those self isolating because it is thought they have the virus:


Home quarantined labels issued by the Delhi government 


Indian official stats are as dodgy as those from Iran and China - to get a true picture of the cases in India, it would be necessary to count the doors with red stickers on them as per the above image.


 


Originally Posted by: Maunder Minimum 

I suspect this is fake news!  The writing is in English, not Indian!


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xioni2
23 March 2020 12:56:07


Indian official stats are as dodgy as those from Iran and China - to get a true picture of the cases in India, it would be necessary to count the doors with red stickers on them as per the above image.


 

Originally Posted by: Maunder Minimum 


You keep saying this about various countries without providing any evidence. Why is China's data dodgy?

Maunder Minimum
23 March 2020 12:56:27

Trump appears to have cracked. I wonder whether an attempt to remove him will be made?

Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 


What has he done now?


New world order coming.
Ulric
23 March 2020 12:57:40


 


Our testing has been very irratitic and it’s very hard to determine where we stand.


Originally Posted by: Heavy Weather 2013 


Agreed. I think if my friend's experience is anything to go by, Covid-19 figures are only reflecting the prevalence of serious cases (and their immediate contacts) which make up between 5% and 20% of the total because those are the only ones who are getting tested. It does suggest that the real rate of infection is between 5 and 20 times larger than shown in the official figures.


Perhaps counter-intuitively, I consider that to be good news because the overwhelming majority of cases do not require hospitalisation or any treatment beyond paracetamol and bed rest.


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Retron
23 March 2020 12:58:01


I suspect this is fake news!  The writing is in English, not Indian!


Originally Posted by: Caz 


Looks legit to me - it mentions Delhi on the bottom of the sign.


Remember, English is an official language of India, as is their native Hindi.


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Maunder Minimum
23 March 2020 12:58:22


 


You keep saying this about various countries without providing any evidence. Why is China's data dodgy?


Originally Posted by: xioni2 


Come on Xioni - given the size of their population and the size of their response, are we really supposed to believe that only 80K confirmed positive or their official death rate?


Complete nuts.


None of the official stats are anything like representative of the true picture. The one country which is perhaps most credible on this score, is South Korea, because of the level of testing done, the contact tracing done and the transparency of their results.


 


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Brian Gaze
23 March 2020 12:59:15


 


What has he done now?


Originally Posted by: Maunder Minimum 


Overnight Tweet storm. He's planning on removing all restrictions in less than 2 weeks. 


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Maunder Minimum
23 March 2020 13:00:19


I suspect this is fake news!  The writing is in English, not Indian!


Originally Posted by: Caz 


It is genuine alright - being reported by several reputable media outlets.


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xioni2
23 March 2020 13:01:18


Come on Xioni - given the size of their population and the size of their response, are we really supposed to believe that only 80K confirmed positive or their official death rate?


Complete nuts.


Originally Posted by: Maunder Minimum 


So after taking such extreme and draconian measures, why would they lie now and lift the Wuhan lockdown?


Their data reporting seems more stable and more informative than ours!


 

Maunder Minimum
23 March 2020 13:03:40


 


So after taking such extreme and draconian measures, why would they lie now and lift the Wuhan lockdown?


Their data reporting seems more stable and more informative than ours!


 


Originally Posted by: xioni2 


I am not saying they have not made huge strides in containing the original outbreak. I am questioning their official statistics in every which way.


 


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23 March 2020 13:03:58


 


Looks legit to me - it mentions Delhi on the bottom of the sign.


Remember, English is an official language of India, as is their native Hindi.


Originally Posted by: Retron 

All signs are predominantly in the language of the region in India. Only a few are additionally written in English.  Unless it’s changed since this time last year when I was there. 


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