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Bugglesgate
28 March 2020 17:05:31

Trump:

We are considering placing NY and New Jersey into a Quarantine.

Originally Posted by: Heavy Weather 2013 


I thought "it would all be over by Easter" with "packed Churches" 


Chris (It,its)
Between Newbury and Basingstoke
"When they are giving you their all, some stagger and fall, after all it's not easy banging your heart against some mad buggers wall"
Chichesterweatherfan2
28 March 2020 17:07:19
Just one personal story.....my brother who lives in Ohio..flew to London for my father’s funeral. he flew back the day after the funeral...sun 15th March...he had to fly via New York..was stuck in a transit area for 5 hours with hundreds of other people before flying onwards to Dayton...He went down so with the virus a few days later...he has had a raging fever for 10 days now, totally lost all sense of taste and smell...utterly exhausted and a terrible cough...I have had the briefest of WhatsApp phone conversations...he says he feels the worst he has ever ..like flu but 50 times worse....he hadn’t yet had any breathing problems...as a family we are terribly worried for him...and of course the distance doesn’t help!
John p
28 March 2020 17:08:29

Is it just me, but a lot of these reports, journalists and tweeters going with the 260 peak and 6k deaths are all on the right?

Originally Posted by: Heavy Weather 2013 


Yep, it’s all about the economy.


Camberley, Surrey
xioni2
28 March 2020 17:10:18

Just one personal story.....my brother who lives in Ohio..flew to London for my father’s funeral. he flew back the day after the funeral...sun 15th March...he had to fly via New York..was stuck in a transit area for 5 hours with hundreds of other people before flying onwards to Dayton...He went down so with the virus a few days later...he has had a raging fever for 10 days now, totally lost all sense of taste and smell...utterly exhausted and a terrible cough...I have had the briefest of WhatsApp phone conversations...he says he feels the worst he has ever ..like flu but 50 times worse....he hadn’t yet had any breathing problems...as a family we are terribly worried for him...and of course the distance doesn’t help!

Originally Posted by: Chichesterweatherfan2 


My friend in London also has a complete loss of smell and taste, a temperature of 39-39.5C, very persistent dry coughing, some difficulty in breathing and moderate body ache. His condition is stable from yesterday.


I hope your brother makes a full recovery Chich.

Ulric
28 March 2020 17:11:27
The kerfuffle at our local Tesco earlier turned out to be someone who had fainted whilst shopping. Understandable reaction from the services but no problems and the store has reopened.
To doubt everything or to believe everything are two equally convenient solutions; both dispense with the necessity of reflection. - Henri Poincaré
Gavin D
28 March 2020 17:15:26

Daily breakdown of the data from PHE


UK data 



  • Daily confirmed Cases - 2,546 (-339)

  • Patients Recovered - 135 (no change) - Current daily high for recovered patients 42 (22/03)

  • Total UK deaths - 1,019 (+260)


English data


Top 10 Local Authorities with the highest confirmed cases



  1. Birmingham: 428

  2. Hampshire: 384

  3. Sheffield: 361

  4. Southwark: 319

  5. Lambeth: 318

  6. Surrey: 314

  7. Brent: 295

  8. Wandsworth: 265

  9. Hertfordshire: 262

  10. Croydon: 261


Local Authorities with the fewest confirmed cases



  • Rutland: 2

  • Kingston upon Hull, City of: 5

  • Hartlepool: 7

  • North Lincolnshire: 7

  • North East Lincolnshire: 8

  • Blackburn with Darwen: 10

  • Blackpool: 10

  • Isle of Wight: 10

  • Halton: 12

  • Darlington: 14


Regional data



  • London - 5,299 (+662)

  • Midlands - 2,438 (+348)

  • South East - 1,727 (+121)

  • North East and Yorkshire - 1,497 (+275)

  • North West - 1,253 (+233)

  • East of England - 1,001 (+205)

  • South West - 649 (+115)


All changes with yesterday. Data based up to 9am today for new cases and up to 5pm yesterday for new deaths.

Gavin D
28 March 2020 17:17:53

Breaking: Italy have reported 5,974 new cases and 889 new deaths



  • New cases have increase by 65

  • New deaths have fallen by 30

Chunky Pea
28 March 2020 17:20:07

https://twitter.com/StefanTompson/status/1243820263558520832



Current Conditions
https://t.ly/MEYqg 


"You don't have to know anything to have an opinion"
--Roger P, 12/Oct/2022
Gavin D
28 March 2020 17:21:20

Italy



  • Patients fully recovered from hospital 12,384 +1,434

  • Patients in hospital in intensive care: 3,856 +124


Current totals



  • 92,472 cases

  • 10,023 deaths

DEW
  • DEW
  • Advanced Member
28 March 2020 17:22:53

 


Still struggling with Hampshire being so far up the tables.  If it included "Solent City" (Southampton and Portsmouth), I could understand but it doesn't becuase they are unitary authorities and have their own figures.


My suspicion is that Winchester is pulling the figures.   Demographically it's fairly old (so more would end up at hospitals getting tested) but its also extremely wealthy so maybe some early carriers came back from ski resorts ??  All speculation of course.


 

Originally Posted by: Bugglesgate 


It is odd, especially when you look at West Sussex, similar demographics, Chichester as a parallel to Winchester, but about 1/3 of confirmed css per head compared to Hampshire.


War does not determine who is right, only who is left - Bertrand Russell

Chichester 12m asl
RobN
  • RobN
  • Advanced Member
28 March 2020 17:24:52


 


I thought "it would all be over by Easter" with "packed Churches" 


Originally Posted by: Bugglesgate 


Nice animated graph here suggests not


https://twitter.com/myworldmysun/status/1243892545643397122


Rob
In the flatlands of South Cambridgeshire 15m ASL.
Gavin D
28 March 2020 17:30:59
Germany's shutdown extended until Monday 20th April 
llamedos
  • llamedos
  • Advanced Member Topic Starter
28 March 2020 17:32:17

Just one personal story.....my brother who lives in Ohio..flew to London for my father’s funeral. he flew back the day after the funeral...sun 15th March...he had to fly via New York..was stuck in a transit area for 5 hours with hundreds of other people before flying onwards to Dayton...He went down so with the virus a few days later...he has had a raging fever for 10 days now, totally lost all sense of taste and smell...utterly exhausted and a terrible cough...I have had the briefest of WhatsApp phone conversations...he says he feels the worst he has ever ..like flu but 50 times worse....he hadn’t yet had any breathing problems...as a family we are terribly worried for him...and of course the distance doesn’t help!

Originally Posted by: Chichesterweatherfan2 

Very sorry to learn of this, it is obviously of immense concern to you and the rest of your family.


Pray you have some reassuring news soon.


"Life with the Lions"

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NickR
28 March 2020 17:35:43


 


I accept all that, but its about finding the right balance. Locking down too hard  will IMO lead to more social, emotion and physical problems than the virus itself


We dont have a vaccine and until we do, the virus will start spreading again anyway once restrictions are lifted. 


We just have to accept a certain number of deaths that our health system can cope with, until herd immunity is achieved by default 


HMG seems to have got the restrictions about right, though I would like pubs to reopen with social distancing. We are able to go for walks and to supermarkets, unlike the Italians, so people can release the tension a bit


 


Originally Posted by: The Beast from the East 


It's not just about a vaccine. 3 months buys time for treatments and more understanding, and hence fewer deaths.


Nick
Durham
[email protected]
bowser
28 March 2020 17:37:45


 


It's not just about a vaccine. 3 months buys time for treatments and more understanding, and hence fewer deaths.


Originally Posted by: NickR 


Fully agree. We need to buy time and we are literally.

Roger Parsons
28 March 2020 17:43:55
We have just been sent this and nearly pissed ourselves laughing. A masterpiece.

Has it been flagged on TWO? If not here's the link. Enjoy.

Coronavirus Rhapsody




Roger
RogerP
West Lindsey district of Lincolnshire
Everything taken together, here in Lincolnshire are more good things than man could have had the conscience to ask.
William Cobbett, in his Rural Rides - c.1830
Bugglesgate
28 March 2020 17:50:03


 


It's not just about a vaccine. 3 months buys time for treatments and more understanding, and hence fewer deaths.


Originally Posted by: NickR 


 


Indeed .  Our place is doing research that is trying to find existing drug candidates  that may help treat Corvid.   If they  find something that helps treat people then as the drugs are already approved,  they can be    brought into use  far faster  than trying to create a new medicine or vaccine.


If an existing  drug or combination of  existing drugs,  can be found that helps people   fight this thing -  it will take  pressure of intensive care beds and save lives.


I have to say I'm really struggling  to understand why people are still trying to downplay this


 


 


 


Chris (It,its)
Between Newbury and Basingstoke
"When they are giving you their all, some stagger and fall, after all it's not easy banging your heart against some mad buggers wall"
Justin W
28 March 2020 17:51:43

Beast has no elderly relatives. That’s how he can blithely suggest we throw the vulnerable to the wolves. Most of us will fight tooth and nail to protect the ones we love. And very life is precious - a decent society will do everything it can to save as many as possible.


Yo yo yo. 148-3 to the 3 to the 6 to the 9, representing the ABQ, what up, biatch?
xioni2
28 March 2020 17:53:21


 And very life is precious - a decent society will do everything it can to save as many as possible.


Originally Posted by: Justin W 


I think that says it all really.

David M Porter
28 March 2020 17:53:44

We have just been sent this and nearly pissed ourselves laughing. A masterpiece.

Has it been flagged on TWO? If not here's the link. Enjoy.

Coronavirus Rhapsody

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lr_tEdQvFcc


Roger

Originally Posted by: Roger Parsons 



Lenzie, Glasgow

"Let us not take ourselves too seriously. None of us has a monopoly on wisdom, and we must always be ready to listen and respect other points of view."- Queen Elizabeth II 1926-2022
Bugglesgate
28 March 2020 17:53:57


Beast has no elderly relatives. That’s how he can blithely suggest we throw the vulnerable to the wolves. Most of us will fight tooth and nail to protect the ones we love. And very life is precious - a decent society will do everything it can to save as many as possible.


Originally Posted by: Justin W 


 



Absolutely !


Chris (It,its)
Between Newbury and Basingstoke
"When they are giving you their all, some stagger and fall, after all it's not easy banging your heart against some mad buggers wall"
Chunky Pea
28 March 2020 17:54:53

We have just been sent this and nearly pissed ourselves laughing. A masterpiece.

Has it been flagged on TWO? If not here's the link. Enjoy.

Coronavirus Rhapsody

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lr_tEdQvFcc


Roger

Originally Posted by: Roger Parsons 


 


Class Roger.


Laughed out loud at the 'headbang' prompt. 


Current Conditions
https://t.ly/MEYqg 


"You don't have to know anything to have an opinion"
--Roger P, 12/Oct/2022
NMA
  • NMA
  • Advanced Member
28 March 2020 17:56:00

We have just been sent this and nearly pissed ourselves laughing. A masterpiece.

Has it been flagged on TWO? If not here's the link. Enjoy.

Coronavirus Rhapsody

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lr_tEdQvFcc


Roger

Originally Posted by: Roger Parsons 


Brilliant Roger. made my day.


Nick


Vale of the Great Dairies
South Dorset
Elevation 60m 197ft
xioni2
28 March 2020 17:57:04


I drove through Dorking earlier today and I just couldn't believe what I was seeing. Long queues outside several shops (supermarkets, newsagents, post offices etc.), people were 1-2m apart, but due to the narrow pavements, other pedestrians were passing much closer to those queuing. It was also obvious that some shops or even estate agents had staff working inside and people were just knocking on the door and were allowed in.


This is not a proper lockdown and many of these people risk causing more premature deaths a few weeks later. The longer this continues, the longer it will take for the peak to occur and the longer the 'lockdown' will last.


Originally Posted by: xioni2 


I've been thinking about this and older generations were asked to go to war, to kill and to be killed. All we are asked in order to save lives is to stay home at a time when technology makes it so easy.


 

John p
28 March 2020 18:05:28


 


 


Indeed .  Our place is doing research that is trying to find existing drug candidates  that may help treat Corvid.   If they  find something that helps treat people then as the drugs are already approved,  they can be    brought into use  far faster  than trying to create a new medicine or vaccine.


If an existing  drug or combination of  existing drugs,  can be found that helps people   fight this thing -  it will take  pressure of intensive care beds and save lives.


I have to say I'm really struggling  to understand why people are still trying to downplay this


 


 


 


Originally Posted by: Bugglesgate 


Because some people just want to get back to necking pints in their local...


Camberley, Surrey

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