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picturesareme
28 March 2020 18:43:05


 


Globally?


Herd immunity will be reached before a vaccine is made anyway, I think that's where the max 20,000 number comes from?


Originally Posted by: The Beast from the East 


UK population is 66m so assuming herd immunity is around 70% that's still 46m that will need to be infected.


The estimated kill percent of this virus is thought to be between 0.5% - 1%. 


1% of 46m is 460,000 


0.5% of 45m is 230,000 


 

Caz
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28 March 2020 18:43:38

We have just been sent this and nearly pissed ourselves laughing. A masterpiece.

Has it been flagged on TWO? If not here's the link. Enjoy.

Coronavirus Rhapsody

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lr_tEdQvFcc


Roger

Originally Posted by: Roger Parsons 

  Love it!

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Roger Parsons
28 March 2020 18:44:58


  Love it!


Originally Posted by: Caz 


My other half was crying with laughter!


R.

RogerP
West Lindsey district of Lincolnshire
Everything taken together, here in Lincolnshire are more good things than man could have had the conscience to ask.
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Caz
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28 March 2020 18:49:05


 


My other half was crying with laughter!


R.


Originally Posted by: Roger Parsons 

Me too. Post it on the positive thread! 

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Polar Low
28 March 2020 18:53:01


 



Beast has no elderly relatives. That’s how he can blithely suggest we throw the vulnerable to the wolves. Most of us will fight tooth and nail to protect the ones we love. And very life is precious - a decent society will do everything it can to save as many as possible.


Originally Posted by: Justin W 

llamedos
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28 March 2020 18:57:30


Me too. Post it on the positive thread! 


Originally Posted by: Caz 

Staying here caz

"Life with the Lions"

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Gooner
28 March 2020 18:57:35


 


You make some valid points and I too agree that if this lockdown goes on too long it will create a lot of other problems stretching things even further. Hopefully the peak will occur during the next 2 weeks and as soon as we are past it SOME of the restrictions could be relaxed to see how it goes. Eg those where social distancing is easy such as outdoor activities.


Originally Posted by: springsunshine 


Why do you think that ?


If we are two weeks from the peak and the restrictions are here, surely we will have to wait  a further two  weeks for it to run down to get to a similar level of that when they were enforced ?


I know its not that easy but I think it might well take a while before anyone is brave enough to ease restrictions - too early and you could be back to square one?


 

Remember anything after T120 is really Just For Fun



Marcus
Banbury
North Oxfordshire
378 feet A S L


doctormog
28 March 2020 18:57:46


Beast has no elderly relatives. That’s how he can blithely suggest we throw the vulnerable to the wolves. Most of us will fight tooth and nail to protect the ones we love. And very life is precious - a decent society will do everything it can to save as many as possible.


Originally Posted by: Justin W 


 X 1000

Aberdeen
Current conditions (personal WS) 
Bolty
28 March 2020 19:01:41


 


Millions are killed in war. THis thing is only going to kill max 20,000 


But how many more will die as a result of economic disaster, mass unemployment, poverty related illnesses, alcohol, drug abuse. over eating, domestic abuse and suicide?


 


Originally Posted by: The Beast from the East 


Wait until one or more of those 20,000 include your family and loved ones. See if you're willing to say it then?


Then again, you have no family so I suppose thousands of people dying isn't any of your consideration. I suppose they're just a number to you?

Scott
Blackrod, Lancashire (4 miles south of Chorley) at 156m asl.
My weather station 
Gooner
28 March 2020 19:03:39

Beast - you should go on a sensitivity course mate 


Being blunt in other discussions can and is accepted but in these times not so 


 


Just saying 

Remember anything after T120 is really Just For Fun



Marcus
Banbury
North Oxfordshire
378 feet A S L


Maunder Minimum
28 March 2020 19:04:27


Beast has no elderly relatives. That’s how he can blithely suggest we throw the vulnerable to the wolves. Most of us will fight tooth and nail to protect the ones we love. And very life is precious - a decent society will do everything it can to save as many as possible.


Originally Posted by: Justin W 


To be fair to Beast, the cure could theoretically turn out to be more damaging in the round than the affliction.


The point is that nobody knows the long term consequences of what we are all going through at the moment.


 

New world order coming.
Chichesterweatherfan2
28 March 2020 19:07:21


 


 X 1000


Originally Posted by: doctormog 


 


x10,000👍👍

Maunder Minimum
28 March 2020 19:13:13


 


 


x10,000👍👍


Originally Posted by: Chichesterweatherfan2 


Depression, mass unemployment,rickets, pinched faces, under fed stomachs. I kid you not, we have to consider the possibilities that society could go backwards 150 years as a consequence of what is happening.


We need to think long term and strategically,as well as knee jerk and emotionally.


 

New world order coming.
speckledjim
28 March 2020 19:20:06
This is so important and so clearly true.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-52076856 
Thorner, West Yorkshire


Journalism is organised gossip
Bolty
28 March 2020 19:20:09


 


Depression, mass unemployment,rickets, pinched faces, under fed stomachs. I kid you not, we have to consider the possibilities that society could go backwards 150 years as a consequence of what is happening.


We need to think long term and strategically,as well as knee jerk and emotionally.


 


Originally Posted by: Maunder Minimum 


Indeed and we're already seeing some of that happening in parts of Italy.


I remain convinced that we will see some sort of civil unrest once the virus itself has blown over, and we're left to face the economic impacts of this.

Scott
Blackrod, Lancashire (4 miles south of Chorley) at 156m asl.
My weather station 
Heavy Weather 2013
28 March 2020 19:20:46
We have deaths at 260 today and the only thing some people can talk about is the economy. Let’s get through this horrific period and the lockdown then maybe have these discussions then.
Mark
Beckton, E London
Less than 500m from the end of London City Airport runway.
Lionel Hutz
28 March 2020 19:23:39


 


Depression, mass unemployment,rickets, pinched faces, under fed stomachs. I kid you not, we have to consider the possibilities that society could go backwards 150 years as a consequence of what is happening.


We need to think long term and strategically,as well as knee jerk and emotionally.


 


Originally Posted by: Maunder Minimum 


I think that that's a fair point and one that may need to be considered at some point(though I don't think that we're going to go back to mid Victorian times either as a result of this crisis).I don't think we're at that point yet though and we need to see where the current strategy gets us first. 

Lionel Hutz
Nr.Waterford , S E Ireland
68m ASL



Chidog
28 March 2020 19:27:42

I can't remember who published the British ICU data this morning, but one thing I thought was insightful was that 74% of ICU patients had a BMI over 25, vs 64% for the general population 

Joe Bloggs
28 March 2020 19:32:27

This is so important and so clearly true.

Originally Posted by: speckledjim 

">https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-52076856


Urghhhhhh! 


Comfort food and wine is what’s helping me get through this! ;-) 


Obviously the article is correct, but for standard healthy eating and gym people like myself, I’m actually using this crisis as an excuse to wind down and treat myself with some luxuries for a change. 


I suspect that good mental health and getting enough sleep are equally as important. 


I think I’m going to have a few alcohol free nights next week though for peace of mind. 


Manchester City Centre, 31m ASL
Heavy Weather 2013
28 March 2020 19:35:40


">https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-52076856

Originally Posted by: Joe Bloggs 


Urghhhhhh! 


Comfort food and wine is what’s helping me get through this! ;-) 


Obviously the article is correct, but for standard healthy eating and gym people like myself, I’m actually using this crisis as an excuse to wind down and treat myself with some luxuries for a change. 


I suspect that good mental health and getting enough sleep is equally as important. 


I think I’m going to have a few alcohol free nights next week though for peace of mind. 



——


Good for you Joe.


I think we all have to have some comforts during this period. 


Also general questions for everyone. Has anyone found their sleeping patterns are a bit over the place atm. I seem to be a bit more restless and and wake up always around 4:30am

Mark
Beckton, E London
Less than 500m from the end of London City Airport runway.
springsunshine
28 March 2020 19:36:32


 


Depression, mass unemployment,rickets, pinched faces, under fed stomachs. I kid you not, we have to consider the possibilities that society could go backwards 150 years as a consequence of what is happening.


We need to think long term and strategically,as well as knee jerk and emotionally.


 


Originally Posted by: Maunder Minimum 


Justin W
28 March 2020 19:36:46


 


To be fair to Beast, the cure could theoretically turn out to be more damaging in the round than the affliction.


The point is that nobody knows the long term consequences of what we are all going through at the moment.


 


Originally Posted by: Maunder Minimum 


If you accept the CMO and ICL’s modelling, the toll from not locking down would be north of 250k. I very much doubt that 250,000 people will die as a result of the lockdown. 

Yo yo yo. 148-3 to the 3 to the 6 to the 9, representing the ABQ, what up, biatch?
Polar Low
28 March 2020 19:36:57

Oh come of it MM what a load of shi# nothing is more important than life you obviously went around when many mothers and fathers never returned after ww2 we were desperate afterwards but the nation recovered and will again.


some people have had it to easy.


 


 



 


Depression, mass unemployment,rickets, pinched faces, under fed stomachs. I kid you not, we have to consider the possibilities that society could go backwards 150 years as a consequence of what is happening.


We need to think long term and strategically,as well as knee jerk and emotionally.


 


Originally Posted by: Maunder Minimum 

Joe Bloggs
28 March 2020 19:36:59


 


Urghhhhhh! 


Comfort food and wine is what’s helping me get through this! ;-) 


Obviously the article is correct, but for standard healthy eating and gym people like myself, I’m actually using this crisis as an excuse to wind down and treat myself with some luxuries for a change. 


I suspect that good mental health and getting enough sleep is equally as important. 


I think I’m going to have a few alcohol free nights next week though for peace of mind. 



Good for you Joe.


I think we all have to have some comforts during this period. 


Also general questions for everyone. Has anyone found their sleeping patterns are a bit over the place atm. I seem to be a bit more restless and and wake up always around 4:30am


Originally Posted by: Heavy Weather 2013 


I’ve had some horrible , horrible dreams. I’m clearly feeling stressed and worried.. overall though I’m sleeping ok. 


Manchester City Centre, 31m ASL
Justin W
28 March 2020 19:38:28


 


Depression, mass unemployment,rickets, pinched faces, under fed stomachs. I kid you not, we have to consider the possibilities that society could go backwards 150 years as a consequence of what is happening.


We need to think long term and strategically,as well as knee jerk and emotionally.


 


Originally Posted by: Maunder Minimum 


Your lack of compassion for our most elderly and vulnerable people turns my stomach.

Yo yo yo. 148-3 to the 3 to the 6 to the 9, representing the ABQ, what up, biatch?
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