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Gandalf The White
07 April 2020 11:31:09


 


Neither do I.


You have an issue with having the last word, don't you? Doesn't matter what the subject is - you just can't prevent that overbearing, hectoring, condescending and patronising inner prefect taking control. Were you made to dance on the boiler at boarding school?


Psychotherapy might be a way forward. Just saying.


Originally Posted by: Justin W 


Given some of your extraordinary contributions here I would ask for details of your psychotherapist but on second thoughts your sessions are clearly not working.


As for having the last word, you seem more intent on achieving that. 


Maybe you need to spend some time in front of a mirror, Justin. A little self-reflection might do you good.


 


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Justin W
07 April 2020 11:31:41


 


Given some of your extraordinary contributions here I would ask for details of your psychotherapist but on second thoughts your sessions are clearly not working.


As for having the last word, you seem more intent on achieving that. 


Maybe you need to spend some time in front of a mirror, Justin. A little self-reflection might do you good.


 


Originally Posted by: Gandalf The White 



Yo yo yo. 148-3 to the 3 to the 6 to the 9, representing the ABQ, what up, biatch?
Gandalf The White
07 April 2020 11:32:47


 



Originally Posted by: Justin W 


Does an emoticon count as having the last word?


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Justin W
07 April 2020 11:33:34


 


Does an emoticon count as having the last word?


😉


Originally Posted by: Gandalf The White 


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Yo yo yo. 148-3 to the 3 to the 6 to the 9, representing the ABQ, what up, biatch?
David M Porter
07 April 2020 11:34:02


 


Our own government could do the same and admit their herd immunity approach was flawed.


I'm not going to hold my breath.


Originally Posted by: Ulric 


Our government made a mistake in not going public early enough about the coming of the crisis and in not restricting travel between this country and others that were known to be affected by the virus a couple of months ago. I have been as critical as anyone else of the way HMG handled things back then.


That said, they cannot and should not be blamed for it starting in the first place. This lies solely with the Chinese authorities and  those involved with the meat/fish factory where it allegedly started.


Lenzie, Glasgow

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Maunder Minimum
07 April 2020 11:37:48


 


Our government made a mistake in not going public early enough about the coming of the crisis and in not restricting travel between this country and others that were known to be affected by the virus a couple of months ago. I have been as critical any anyone else of of the way HMG handled things back then.


That said, they cannot and should not be blamed for it starting in the first place. The lies solely with the Chinese authorities.


Originally Posted by: David M Porter 



Plus - all western governments were guilty of serious complacency for weeks on end - not just the UK.


 


New world order coming.
John p
07 April 2020 11:38:41

Apparently he’s coming out of ITU today, announcement later.
Great news if source correct (Simoney Kyriakou, Twitter) since deleted tweet but remains adamant it’s true 🤷‍♂️)


Camberley, Surrey
Sevendust
07 April 2020 11:43:57


Apparently he’s coming out of ITU today, announcement later.
Great news if source correct (Simoney Kyriakou, Twitter) since deleted tweet but remains adamant it’s true 🤷‍♂️)


Originally Posted by: John p 


Just in time for "clap for Boris" 

Heavy Weather 2013
07 April 2020 11:44:45


Apparently he’s coming out of ITU today, announcement later.
Great news if source correct (Simoney Kyriakou, Twitter) since deleted tweet but remains adamant it’s true 🤷‍♂️)


Originally Posted by: John p 


Great news. I am glad he has pulled through this.


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David M Porter
07 April 2020 11:49:07


Apparently he’s coming out of ITU today, announcement later.
Great news if source correct (Simoney Kyriakou, Twitter) since deleted tweet but remains adamant it’s true 🤷‍♂️)


Originally Posted by: John p 


Indeed- excellent news if this is so.


Lenzie, Glasgow

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speckledjim
07 April 2020 11:49:15
74 new deaths in Scotland, looks like as expected we will have a big number today across the UK
Thorner, West Yorkshire


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fairweather
07 April 2020 11:53:34

I have an I do not understand the degree of criticism of China on here other than the fact that their practices in their markets and treatment of animals most likely caused this and I agree there should be international action to pressure them to rectify this although I suspect they will take action themselves. Whilst criticised for not letting the world know immediately they had no idea what they were dealing with at first. Once they did they seemed to have been much more successful in isolating, testing and tracing than anybody else. They quickly built hospitals and seemed to have more PPE. Whilst everybody else is now looking after themselves they were expected to prioritise us when they were in the position we are now?  What more have we done than they did to stop the spread, and the West had more time and more knowledge.They have a population of 1.4 billion to contain which must be a bit tricky. What about the USA? Why are they not being criticised even more. Their President wasted weeks making jokes about it and even now they are not universally isolating. How does that help the rest of the world in the weeks ahead? Furthermore there was criticism of China waiting a week before releasing the genetic code. Well I thought that was pretty good. Do you think if the outbreak was in the USA they would have found it and released it quicker? You bet they wouldn't. It would have been sent straight to the big U.S drug companies to give them a head start on vaccine development. How do we know that they didn't have to further confirmations and checks before they released it. Imagine the repercussions  if it was wrong. They would have been accused of mis-information. Would our red tape let it out quicker than a week? I'm not sure.The Chinese also offered excess PPE and  equipment to the rest of the world. Compare that with the USA who actively tried to hijack, outbid and intercept other international supplies.


Given their situation, I don't think they have been any worse than anybody else.


 


 


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JHutch
07 April 2020 11:55:14

Lobby briefing - does not have pneumonia, standard oxygen treatment, not on ventilator. Another update later today.

Brian Gaze
07 April 2020 11:56:36
Johnson is stable according to the briefing. Not on a ventilator but still getting assistance breathing. Sounds reasonably promising to me.
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Quantum
07 April 2020 11:56:45

'Not requiring invasive ventilation'


Devil in the detail?


So is he on CPAP?


 


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westv
07 April 2020 11:56:46


Standard briefing - does not have pneumonia, standard oxygen treatment, not on ventilator. Another update later today.


Originally Posted by: JHutch 


So is he being moved then? Maybe they need to wait for a bed to be free!


At least it will be mild!
fairweather
07 April 2020 11:56:59


 


Indeed- excellent news if this is so.


Originally Posted by: David M Porter 


This is not true according to the Downing Street briefing given as I type.


He is stable and and had a good night and is in good spirits. He is not on a ventilator or anyother invasive breathing support. He is having oxygen.


He is NOT about to come out. Unless the source is the BBC I don't tend to believe it anyway.


 


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Quantum
07 April 2020 11:57:48

We'll know by Thursday either way. Either a rapid deterioation or sign of improvement.


 


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Brian Gaze
07 April 2020 11:59:02


We'll know by Thursday either way. Either a rapid deterioation or sign of improvement.


 


Originally Posted by: Quantum 


If he's out of ICU today they must be ULTRA confident he's on the mend. 


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SJV
07 April 2020 11:59:53


 


This is not true according to the Downing Street briefing given as I type.


He is stable and and had a good night and is in good spirits. He is not on a ventilator or anyother invasive breathing support. He is having oxygen.


He is NOT about to come out. Unless the source is the BBC I don't tend to believe it anyway.


 


Originally Posted by: fairweather 


I agree. Were it true that he was to be discharged this afternoon, it would be common knowledge by now. Positives like that would find their way into the MSM quicker than any negatives.


Given what we know from the lunchtime briefing, it is as you were. It's good that he hasn't deteriorated further 

westv
07 April 2020 12:00:39


We'll know by Thursday either way. Either a rapid deterioation or sign of improvement.


 


Originally Posted by: Quantum 


Let's all hope for the later. The thought of a serving PM having a funeral which nobody can attend sounds dreadful.


At least it will be mild!
llamedos
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07 April 2020 12:01:05


 


If he's out of ICU today they must be ULTRA confident he's on the mend. 


Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 

Quite obviously 


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speckledjim
07 April 2020 12:01:14


'Not requiring invasive ventilation'


Devil in the detail?


So is he on CPAP?


 


Originally Posted by: Quantum 


Thought they said he was not requiring any mechanical ventilation which would include CPAP. I may have misheard.


Thorner, West Yorkshire


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xioni2
07 April 2020 12:02:30


We'll know by Thursday either way. Either a rapid deterioation or sign of improvement.


Originally Posted by: Quantum 


It's promising though if he doesn't go on a ventilator in the first 24h.

Caz
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07 April 2020 12:03:05

This says something important about cause of death stats.

Originally Posted by: four 

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 That does say it’s US stats though. 


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