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RobN
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01 August 2018 06:44:19

Disappointed UK extremophiles can still keep a vicarious eye on Portugal where things still seem on track



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Brian Gaze
01 August 2018 07:13:18

Summer is over. Washout.



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Brian Gaze
01 August 2018 07:21:47


 


face facts, summer is in decline so enjoy this weekend as it maybe the last of the heat hopefully! 


Originally Posted by: The Beast from the East 


 The facts are you have been constantly talking about the summer turning into a washout! Apparently on the basis of an article a forecaster has published on the Internet.


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Solar Cycles
01 August 2018 07:49:45


Summer is over. Washout.



Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 

😁 


Yep, the summer is over brigade may have jumped the gun yet agaiin, yes it will break at some point but that may well be next month or even Oct/November.

sunnyramsgate
01 August 2018 08:13:19
Off to the lakes next week it will be what it will be....
The Beast from the East
01 August 2018 08:29:36


 


 The facts are you have been constantly talking about the summer turning into a washout! Apparently on the basis of an article a forecaster has published on the Internet.


Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 


The atlantic trough developing may help pump the heat up for the south but will also increase the chance of torrential thunderstorms as the week goes on. 


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Ally Pally Snowman
01 August 2018 08:53:56

First day of another heatwave today somewhere should get to 28c. Over the next 10 days or so we should get to 30c somewhere on 5,6,7 maybe even 8 days. and 35c on 1 or 2. ECM has 20c 850s into the SE by day 7. Yet some in here seem to think summer has finished.  


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Weathermac
01 August 2018 08:54:41


 


The atlantic trough developing may help pump the heat up for the south but will also increase the chance of torrential thunderstorms as the week goes on. 


Originally Posted by: The Beast from the East 


That may be so and you would expect Thunderstorms with that heat and humidity but what you were intimating was a Jetstream plunging south with its attendant Low pressure areas with washout rains etc ....that of course is not showing in the current forecast so basically you are wrong .


At some point in the future the Atlantic may return but for now Summer continues .

SJV
01 August 2018 08:57:46


 


That may be so and you would expect Thunderstorms with that heat and humidity but what you were intimating was a Jetstream plunging south with its attendant Low pressure areas with washout rains etc ....that of course is not showing in the current forecast so basically you are wrong .


At some point in the future the Atlantic may return but for now Summer continues .


Originally Posted by: Weathermac 


  Spot on. A subtle back track from Beast is easily seen through 


Encouraging output this morning from the big three 

Rob K
01 August 2018 10:28:34
North-south divide in evidence this morning. GFS at T174 has 850s of 2C in Scotland and 20C on the Sussex coast!
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The Beast from the East
01 August 2018 10:47:00

North-south divide in evidence this morning. GFS at T174 has 850s of 2C in Scotland and 20C on the Sussex coast!

Originally Posted by: Rob K 


where the boundary is there is likely to be some torrential rain


cools off for us all later


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Sevendust
01 August 2018 10:52:24


 


where the boundary is there is likely to be some torrential rain


cools off for us all later


Originally Posted by: The Beast from the East 


Yes - the sun is heading south so it is only a matter of time 

Rob K
01 August 2018 11:03:00

Not really what I want to be seeing before heading to a tent in the West Country. Some chilly nights on the way if that verified.


 



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superteacher
01 August 2018 11:08:01


Not really what I want to be seeing before heading to a tent in the West Country. Some chilly nights on the way if that verified.


 



Originally Posted by: Rob K 


Don’t do that to me! I thought that was a chart for next week!


Glad it won’t happen now I’ve checked that date, phew!

The Beast from the East
01 August 2018 11:11:26


Not really what I want to be seeing before heading to a tent in the West Country. Some chilly nights on the way if that verified.


 



Originally Posted by: Rob K 


Lovely to see those deep blues returning again


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TimS
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01 August 2018 11:39:17
Had a look at the GFS 06z. A hot outlier, but still: it’s the second upgrade in a row. On the TimS model of 4 upgrades then 4 downers, we’re 2 runs away from a long term scorcher.
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Rob K
01 August 2018 12:22:05

One week's time. 850s of 5C or 20C on the south coast? Take your pick.



 



Yateley, NE Hampshire, 73m asl
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superteacher
01 August 2018 13:34:25


One week's time. 850s of 5C or 20C on the south coast? Take your pick.



 



Originally Posted by: Rob K 

Well I know which one I'd pick, but definitely highlights the level of uncertainty.

doctormog
01 August 2018 13:41:49
The difference in those ensembles here (@ t850hPa) is about 2°C. There is however a wide range of options at that’s time and overall the mean is close to the long term average. Given the range I’m not sure how much the mean is worth! from about the 9th inwards the GEFS ensemble mean remains around average for most, based on the 06z suite.
Hungry Tiger
01 August 2018 13:53:16

Seems like the models and forecast charts are all over the place.


 


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warrenb
01 August 2018 16:16:50
GFS Operational is hot in the medium term.
Rob K
01 August 2018 16:28:17

GFS Operational is hot in the medium term.

Originally Posted by: warrenb 


But the swings continue and by 18hrs it is 12C+ cooler (at 850mb) in the south than the 06Z was. Small changes in the position of the jet have a huge effect for the UK with this set-up.


Surface temps for next Thursday around 20-22C instead of high 20s.


 


I don't think next week will be pinned down until the weekend, although the Met Office seem to think it will cool down quite significantly from midweek, so this run could be near the mark.


Yateley, NE Hampshire, 73m asl
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Rob K
01 August 2018 16:33:02
http://old.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Rtavn17417.gif 


Yateley, NE Hampshire, 73m asl
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David M Porter
01 August 2018 17:35:00


Seems like the models and forecast charts are all over the place.


 


Originally Posted by: Hungry Tiger 


Maybe it's just me, but from what I can recall of the model output over the past couple of months, the models seems to have been all over the place for most of the time this summer to dat. More so than was the case last year, despite last summer being generally much more unsettled.


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The Beast from the East
01 August 2018 18:30:54

http://www.meteociel.fr/modeles/ecmwf.php?ech=144&mode=1&map=0&type=0&archive=0


This is the moment of divergence. Does the trough move across and introduce a cooler flow from the north or does it stay away long enough to keep the drag up from France


 


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