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Gooner
14 March 2020 13:06:55


 


Only if you have a persistent cough or a fever. That's literally all 111 asks.


 


Originally Posted by: Retron 


I'snt shivering and sweating symptoms of a fever ?


Remember anything after T120 is really Just For Fun



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Brian Gaze
14 March 2020 13:07:25

Presumably Vallance, Whitty and Boris are recruiting yellow vest protesters to spread the virus in the UK when transmission needs accelerating? 


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bowser
14 March 2020 13:08:54


 


The stress and anxiety is crippling. Seeing my kids talk about football, wanting to be a vet, wanting a new bookshelf... is very hard right now. Their entire future is not going to be what they think it will, and over the coming months they may well lose grandparents and maybe even me.


On thermometers.. our trusty ear one was playing up a bit. I bought a new one a couple of weeks ago. Very glad I did. I've assigned a separate cap for each family member (no way to use a new one each time).


Originally Posted by: NickR 


It can be hard going with young kids when you get a bit uptight with what is going on. My grandparents were my son and daughters age around WW2. I think if they got through that + subsequent rationing we can face down a tough 6 month period. Keep positive! 

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14 March 2020 13:09:54


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NickR
14 March 2020 13:10:55


 


It can be hard going with young kids when you get a bit uptight with what is going on. My grandparents were my son and daughters age around WW2. I think if they got through that + subsequent rationing we can face down a tough 6 month period. Keep positive! 


Originally Posted by: bowser 


If I weren't in a certain risk group, I would be calmer. If I also understood my risk more fully, that would also help.


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Brian Gaze
14 March 2020 13:11:32


 


It can be hard going with young kids when you get a bit uptight with what is going on. My grandparents were my son and daughters age around WW2. I think if they got through that + subsequent rationing we can face down a tough 6 month period. Keep positive! 


Originally Posted by: bowser 


I can't speak for Nick but if you suffer from stress and anxiety in certain situations it is not simply a case of "keeping positive" or "manning up". 


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bowser
14 March 2020 13:12:19


 


If I weren't in a certain risk group, I would be calmer. If I also understood my risk more fully, that would also help.


Originally Posted by: NickR 


Understood Nick. Wishing you all the best.

xioni2
14 March 2020 13:12:47


 If I weren't in a certain risk group, I would be calmer. If I also understood my risk more fully, that would also help.


Originally Posted by: NickR 


Have you sought professional help? All the best anyway.

Gooner
14 March 2020 13:14:36




Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 


Absolute morons - staggering picture 


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bowser
14 March 2020 13:16:36


 


I can't speak for Nick but if you suffer from stress and anxiety in certain situations it is not simply a case of "keeping positive" or "manning up". 


Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 


well, you totally misread the tone of my post.

Caz
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14 March 2020 13:29:01


It is almost certain they will unless there is something seriously unusual with this virus. In fact if they do not have immunity the chances would also be we could not develop an effective vaccine.


Originally Posted by: doctormog 

   Just to add, because someone no doubt had measles or chicken pox twice!  There may be the odd case of someone getting it again, just as with any viral infection, although it’s rare and second time round symptoms tend to be less severe. 


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Gandalf The White
14 March 2020 13:31:00


Do we know for certain this herd immunity thing is actually the plan?


The govt has mentioned herd immunity but they have also mentioned social distancing and flattening the curve.


 


Originally Posted by: Quantum 


Those are not mutually exclusive. The plan seems to be to have a controlled exposure, ie to flatten the peak. Herd immunity without too much collateral damage, if you like.


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Quantum
14 March 2020 13:33:17

Well, like everyone else here, I do feel nervous about HMG's plan.


Is part of it not being clear about what the plan is?


 


And  yes I acknoledge the science may be behind it. But there is also new and interesting data from SK, taiwan, China, hong kong and Singapore. Their method clearly worked so why risk a strategy that is acclaimed in academic circles but has never actually been tested, at least on a large societal scale?


 


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Gandalf The White
14 March 2020 13:33:33


   Just to add, because someone no doubt had measles or chicken pox twice!  There may be the odd case of someone getting it again, just as with any viral infection, although it’s rare and second time round symptoms tend to be less severe. 


Originally Posted by: Caz 


As I understand it the immune system’s ‘memory’ can weaken over time - and weakens when you’re old(er).


That’s why sometimes you get boosters for some diseases; eg tetanus if you’ve got a cut from a risky source.


 


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Roger Parsons
14 March 2020 13:35:54


I can't speak for Nick but if you suffer from stress and anxiety in certain situations it is not simply a case of "keeping positive" or "manning up". 


Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 


A good friend with "bipolar" addresses this kind of misunderstanding with a splendid game to be used when annoyed by someone who did not understand the condition. The rules are simple. Take it in turns to say a word/phrase/expression along the following lines:


Cheer up.


It's not that bad.


Pull yourself together.


There are lots of people a lot worse than you are.


You must make an effort.


Don't be so negative all the time.


Look on the bright side.


You've nothing to worry about.... etc.


You keep going until you collapse in hysterical laughter.


Best not played whilst driving!


You could probably invent a Covid-19 version of this if self-isolated/quarantined.


Roger


 


 


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Gandalf The White
14 March 2020 13:35:56


  Ahh, I thought I was the only one who can never work out the 100 year difference!  


Originally Posted by: Caz 


Hmm... he did say 19th century, so 1800s


🙂


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xioni2
14 March 2020 13:36:48


And  yes I acknoledge the science may be behind it. But there is also new and interesting data from SK, taiwan, China, hong kong and Singapore. Their method clearly worked so why risk a strategy that is acclaimed in academic circles but has never actually been tested, at least on a large societal scale?


Originally Posted by: Quantum 


Gandalf The White
14 March 2020 13:37:23


 


A good friend with "bipolar" addresses this kind of misunderstanding with a splendid game to be used when annoyed by someone who did not understand the condition. The rules are simple. Take it in turns to say a word/phrase/expression along the following lines:


Cheer up.


It's not that bad.


Pull yourself together.


There are lots of people a lot worse than you are.


You must make an effort.


Don't be so negative all the time.


Look on the bright side.


You've nothing to worry about.... etc.


You keep going until you collapse in hysterical laughter.


Best not played whilst driving!


You could probably invent a Covid-19 version of this if self-isolated/quarantined.


Roger


 


 


Originally Posted by: Roger Parsons 


LOL


You forgot ‘it could be worse’


 


😉


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NickR
14 March 2020 13:38:03


Well, like everyone else here, I do feel nervous about HMG's plan.


Is part of it not being clear about what the plan is?


 


And  yes I acknoledge the science may be behind it. But there is also new and interesting data from SK, taiwan, China, hong kong and Singapore. Their method clearly worked so why risk a strategy that is acclaimed in academic circles but has never actually been tested, at least on a large societal scale?


 


Originally Posted by: Quantum 


ALSO: What is to say they can't regroup, increase capacity over the summer and then engage in exactly the same tactics when the second wave comes - tactics that have proved successful? And this time with more capacity and understanding.


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Brian Gaze
14 March 2020 13:39:34


And  yes I acknoledge the science may be behind it. But there is also new and interesting data from SK, taiwan, China, hong kong and Singapore. Their method clearly worked so why risk a strategy that is acclaimed in academic circles but has never actually been tested, at least on a large societal scale?


 


Originally Posted by: Quantum 


 The argument seems to be their method hasn't worked - it has simply delayed the true onset of the virus which will be worse as a result.


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Gandalf The White
14 March 2020 13:40:09


Not to worry. The US stock market had its biggest rise in history yesterday. 


 




Originally Posted by: Gavin D 


 


FFS


He might as well say it’s lighter in the morning than it is at night.


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Caz
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14 March 2020 13:41:14


It can be hard going with young kids when you get a bit uptight with what is going on. My grandparents were my son and daughters age around WW2. I think if they got through that + subsequent rationing we can face down a tough 6 month period. Keep positive! 


Originally Posted by: bowser 

  Wise words!  


The other thing to remember is that we’re all in this together!  If our kids have to sacrifice something, it will be the same thing others are sacrificing, so they won’t be singled out as being ‘different’.  Kids are very resilient and adapt so much more easily than adults!


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Heavy Weather 2013
14 March 2020 13:42:25


 


 


FFS


He might as well say it’s lighter in the morning than it is at night.


Originally Posted by: Gandalf The White 


Agreed. It will probably come down again on Monday. It’s been like this for last two weeks big gains then big losses


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Quantum
14 March 2020 13:42:26


 


ALSO: What is to say they can't regroup, increase capacity over the summer and then engage in exactly the same tactics when the second wave comes - tactics that have proved successful? And this time with more capacity and understanding.


Originally Posted by: NickR 


And we might have a vacinne by the time wave2 comes anyway.


 


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29/11 (-6), 30/11 (-6), 02/12 (-5), 03/12 (-5), 04/12 (-3), 16/01 (-3), 18/01 (-8), 08/02 (-5)

Total: 8 days with snow/sleet falling.

2022/2023 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):

18/12 (-1), 06/03 (-6), 08/03 (-8), 09/03 (-6), 10/03 (-8), 11/03 (-5), 14/03 (-6)

Total: 7 days with snow/sleet falling.

2021/2022 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):

26/11 (-5), 27/11 (-7), 28/11 (-6), 02/12 (-6), 06/01 (-5), 07/01 (-6), 06/02 (-5), 19/02 (-5), 24/02 (-7), 30/03 (-7), 31/03 (-8), 01/04 (-8)
Total: 12 days with snow/sleet falling.
Quantum
14 March 2020 13:44:03


 


 The argument seems to be their method hasn't worked - it has simply delayed the true onset of the virus which will be worse as a result.


Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 


It's speculation though.


They may well be right of course, but it's not going to matter if we get screwed over in the next month.


Also this assumes herd immunity is even possible, we don't know that for sure, it may mutate too quickly. It also assumes we won't have a vacinne which is the safe way to obtain herd immunity.


 


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2023/2024 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):
29/11 (-6), 30/11 (-6), 02/12 (-5), 03/12 (-5), 04/12 (-3), 16/01 (-3), 18/01 (-8), 08/02 (-5)

Total: 8 days with snow/sleet falling.

2022/2023 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):

18/12 (-1), 06/03 (-6), 08/03 (-8), 09/03 (-6), 10/03 (-8), 11/03 (-5), 14/03 (-6)

Total: 7 days with snow/sleet falling.

2021/2022 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):

26/11 (-5), 27/11 (-7), 28/11 (-6), 02/12 (-6), 06/01 (-5), 07/01 (-6), 06/02 (-5), 19/02 (-5), 24/02 (-7), 30/03 (-7), 31/03 (-8), 01/04 (-8)
Total: 12 days with snow/sleet falling.
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