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Polar Low
14 March 2020 22:36:11

Hello Marcus do you understand the basic principle just asking that all


https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=share&v=nl6tTwxzCi8


 


 




 


Have the decency to accept my opinion I accept you are always right 


Its clearly obvious about the services my point is they should have done it earlier .


And I have to say there really isn't a medical expert with this as no one knows where we will end up


Originally Posted by: Gooner 

Gooner
14 March 2020 22:39:18


 


That makes me feel less worried about my kids missing the next 1-2 weeks. What will that matter?


Thanks to everyone for their concern. Stress and anxiety could well be part of it.  I'll see how I am in the morning.


Originally Posted by: NickR 


As my colleague Doc said , peace of mind helps a lot Nick 

Remember anything after T120 is really Just For Fun



Marcus
Banbury
North Oxfordshire
378 feet A S L


doctormog
14 March 2020 22:40:49


 


But... the whole point is there is a 2-3 week lag. So the fact services were not overloaded a week ago is irrelevant.


Originally Posted by: NickR 


Not in this case no. If the ban had been put in place the intervening time has shown that it would not have been necessary as for the past week the emergency services were not overloaded. We can say that with hindsight. They may or may not be in the coming week when the ban is actually in place.

Aberdeen
Current conditions (personal WS) 
Brian Gaze
14 March 2020 22:41:50


 


That makes me feel less worried about my kids missing the next 1-2 weeks. What will that matter?


Originally Posted by: NickR 


Sorry if I missed it earlier but have you taken a decision to keep your kids off school from Monday?

Brian Gaze
Berkhamsted
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SJV
14 March 2020 22:43:01


 


Oh dear.


Originally Posted by: xioni2 



If the Dept. of Health think the control measures are going to reduce the cases by that much, surely the herd immunity threshold won't be reached?  (suggests Vallance's comments have indeed been misinterpreted) I get the need to not overload our NHS, but we must be banking on a second wave not occurring, or not being more deadly than the first, if we aren't intending on immunity. Then I'm thinking why aren't we doing more (like other countries) in order to control the outbreak?


I'm confused, I think I might go to bed now 


 

NickR
14 March 2020 22:43:25


 


Sorry if I missed it earlier but have you taken a decision to keep your kids off school from Monday?


Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 


I took them out last Thursday. Was debating whether to send them in on Monday. But now think I'll keep them off.

Nick
Durham
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Brian Gaze
14 March 2020 22:44:33


 


I took them out last Thursday. Was debating whether to send them in on Monday. But now think I'll keep them off.


Originally Posted by: NickR 


A lot of parents locally are doing the same as you. 

Brian Gaze
Berkhamsted
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Arcus
14 March 2020 22:47:16


 



If the Dept. of Health think the control measures are going to reduce the cases by that much, surely the herd immunity threshold won't be reached?  (suggests Vallance's comments have indeed been misinterpreted) I get the need to not overload our NHS, but we must be banking on a second wave not occurring, or not being more deadly than the first, if we aren't intending on immunity. Then I'm thinking why aren't we doing more (like other countries) in order to control the outbreak?


I'm confused, I think I might go to bed now 


 


Originally Posted by: SJV 


Area under the curves.

Ben,
Nr. Easingwold, North Yorkshire
30m asl
doctormog
14 March 2020 22:49:41


 


Area under the curves.


Originally Posted by: Arcus 


...should be essentially the same but the graph hasn’t been sketched properly? 


 


Incidentally, as of yesterday school absences here were around normal. I’m not sure what next week will hold but I suspect they may be a little higher.

Aberdeen
Current conditions (personal WS) 
Brian Gaze
14 March 2020 22:50:46

From tomorrow's Sunday Times


Coronavirus: ‘In Italy, it’s apocalypse. You’d be fools to get burnt like us’


The intensive care chief of a hospital at the centre of Italy’s ‘red zone’ has a grim warning: clamp down before it’s too late


Giuseppe Natalini, head of intensive care at the Fondazione Poliambulanza hospital in the northern Italian city of Brescia, one of the places hit hardest by the coronavirus, does not mince his words.


“The situation is catastrophic, unimaginable,” he said. “If someone had told me on February 21 [when the first cluster of cases was diagnosed in Italy] that today we would be in this situation, I would not have believed it.


https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/news/coronavirus-in-italy-its-apocalypse-youd-be-fools-to-get-burnt-like-us-lw89pt76c

Brian Gaze
Berkhamsted
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Chunky Pea
14 March 2020 22:51:17


Thanks to everyone for their concern. Stress and anxiety could well be part of it.  I'll see how I am in the morning.


Originally Posted by: NickR 


Cheap advice but try a few Beecham's hot lemon for a couple of days. I find that they work wonders for (what hopefully will remain) minor symptoms which you describe as having. 

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Sevendust
14 March 2020 22:51:53

One thing discussed at work this week was pollen levels. Some signs of hay fever amongst a few people triggered by tree pollen. This may be leading a slightly sore throats so worth bearing in mind. 

NickR
14 March 2020 22:54:14


One thing discussed at work this week was pollen levels. Some signs of hay fever amongst a few people triggered by tree pollen. This may be leading a slightly sore throats so worth bearing in mind. 


Originally Posted by: Sevendust 


👍 I do suffer from hay fever.

Nick
Durham
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Arcus
14 March 2020 22:56:33


 


...should be essentially the same but the graph hasn’t been sketched properly? 


 


Incidentally, as of yesterday school absences here were around normal. I’m not sure what next week will hold but I suspect they may be a little higher.


Originally Posted by: doctormog 


 Yes...

Ben,
Nr. Easingwold, North Yorkshire
30m asl
speckledjim
14 March 2020 22:56:46


 


A lot of parents locally are doing the same as you. 


Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 


Are they going to keep them off for 3 months +? The experts say this isn’t going to peak for 10-14 weeks so I can’t understand why you’d take them out of school for that long if you don’t need to 

Thorner, West Yorkshire


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David M Porter
14 March 2020 22:57:54


 


There are many symptoms of the virus , sore throat actually being one of them , I found out today that a girl who works for us in customer services rang 111 ( after have a 2 day sore throat ) and the advice was …………………….self isolate for a week?


Yet a guy who works for me in Operations had a cough , tight chest and complained of being hot for 2 days , rang 111 , they sent him to the doctor who then said to him " what are you worried about "


 


Work that lot out 


Originally Posted by: Gooner 


I think this is symptomatic of the general state of concern and worry there is in this country at the moment. I will admit that I have been stressing a bit over things in the last few days, and thus far I have managed to avoid the virus.


IMO, it may be better if the media stopped issuing updates every day on the number of cases of people testing positive for the virus and the number of fatalities. Much as I undertand the need to keep the public informed, the way things have been going over the past week or so I think that the media may (unintentionally) causing a panic. I am thinking especially of the "panic buying" there has been by some people in shops around the country, especially in respect of things like hand sanitiser and toilet rolls.

Lenzie, Glasgow

"Let us not take ourselves too seriously. None of us has a monopoly on wisdom, and we must always be ready to listen and respect other points of view."- Queen Elizabeth II 1926-2022
Arcus
14 March 2020 23:00:04

Speculation on science and policy aside, I spend most of today chopping wood (not a euphemism). Not sure why, just thought that I should.

Ben,
Nr. Easingwold, North Yorkshire
30m asl
Gooner
14 March 2020 23:02:02


 


I think this is symptomatic of the general state of concern and worry there is in this country at the moment. I will admit that I have been stressing a bit over things in the last few days, and thus far I have managed to avoid the virus.


IMO, it may be better if the media stopped issuing updates every day on the number of cases of people testing positive for the virus and the number of fatalities. Much as I undertand the need to keep the public informed, the way things have been going over the past week or so I think that the media may (unintentionally) causing a panic. I am thinking especially of the "panic buying" there has been by some people in shops around the country, especially in respect of things like hand sanitiser and toilet rolls.


Originally Posted by: David M Porter 


Valid point David , I said last week how info overload can create mayhem , we have seen that from weather forecasts and media hype over a snow event .

Remember anything after T120 is really Just For Fun



Marcus
Banbury
North Oxfordshire
378 feet A S L


doctormog
14 March 2020 23:05:18

Speculation on science and policy aside, I spend most of today chopping wood (not a euphemism). Not sure why, just though that I should.

Originally Posted by: Arcus 


Does that mean we have reached the logarithmic stage?


David I think you are right re. the updates but people will make accusations of “hiding things” if the updates are not issued.

Aberdeen
Current conditions (personal WS) 
NickR
14 March 2020 23:08:40
Matt Hancock just published the govt plan...behind a fecking paywall! I mean... WTF??

https://twitter.com/MattHancock/status/1238960146342084609?s=19 
Nick
Durham
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Chunky Pea
14 March 2020 23:10:43


 


Stockpilers are now really pissing me off. It's hit, at certain shops: pasta, pasta sauces, teabags, eggs, milk, nappies, baby wipes, bleach, anti-bacterial wipes,etc - as well as the toilet rolls, soap, hand gel, paracetamol. Was talking to the checkout girl in Aldi and they told me a woman had kicked off in the morning as they wouldn't let her buy eight 24-packs of toilet rolls. Apparently, Morrisons are selling 5 million toilet rolls a day. FFS.


 


Originally Posted by: Saint Snow 


I was in Lidl early this morning and witnessed the same thing. I get that people are worried etc, but it is becoming a joke at this stage. Mass panic buying in case the shops run out of stuff... because of mass panic buying. 

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Quantum
14 March 2020 23:10:47

Matt Hancock just published the govt plan...behind a fecking paywall! I mean... WTF??

https://twitter.com/MattHancock/status/1238960146342084609?s=19

Originally Posted by: NickR 


 


 


Nvm it doesn't let me paste it in here.


 

Twitter: @QuantumOverlord (general), @MedicaneWatch (medicane/TC stuff)
2023/2024 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):
29/11 (-6), 30/11 (-6), 02/12 (-5), 03/12 (-5), 04/12 (-3), 16/01 (-3), 18/01 (-8), 08/02 (-5)

Total: 8 days with snow/sleet falling.

2022/2023 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):

18/12 (-1), 06/03 (-6), 08/03 (-8), 09/03 (-6), 10/03 (-8), 11/03 (-5), 14/03 (-6)

Total: 7 days with snow/sleet falling.

2021/2022 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):

26/11 (-5), 27/11 (-7), 28/11 (-6), 02/12 (-6), 06/01 (-5), 07/01 (-6), 06/02 (-5), 19/02 (-5), 24/02 (-7), 30/03 (-7), 31/03 (-8), 01/04 (-8)
Total: 12 days with snow/sleet falling.
NickR
14 March 2020 23:11:36
David M Porter
14 March 2020 23:11:57


 


Does that mean we have reached the logarithmic stage?


David I think you are right re. the updates but people will make accusations of “hiding things” if the updates are not issued.


Originally Posted by: doctormog 


Hi Michael


Having thought more about this, I don't think I would go as far as not issuing updates at all, for the reason you mention. However, what could be an idea is to issue them a little less often, say once every few days.


To be honest, it is hard for anyone to know what is the best things to do at the moment. No-one, not even the most gifted people in the medical world right now know exactly how this virus is going to behave. Unfortunately, we are really hostages to fate as things stand.

Lenzie, Glasgow

"Let us not take ourselves too seriously. None of us has a monopoly on wisdom, and we must always be ready to listen and respect other points of view."- Queen Elizabeth II 1926-2022
Bugglesgate
14 March 2020 23:12:29

Matt Hancock just published the govt plan...behind a fecking paywall! I mean... WTF??

https://twitter.com/MattHancock/status/1238960146342084609?s=19

Originally Posted by: NickR 


 


What planet is he on ? 


I guess only Torygraph  readers  are important to him

Chris (It,its)
Between Newbury and Basingstoke
"When they are giving you their all, some stagger and fall, after all it's not easy banging your heart against some mad buggers wall"
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