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NickR
15 March 2020 15:47:58

New cases down by 110 compared to Saturday - 2,533 tests new tests complete to 9am today

38,907 negative

1,372 positive

14 new deaths

Originally Posted by: Gavin D 


They've simply not testing, even when they pretty much know it's covid-19.


What matters is deaths. And those are up by around 70%.

Nick
Durham
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Brian Gaze
15 March 2020 15:48:24


 


2533 tests so down on the previous day’s figure of 4975


Originally Posted by: speckledjim 


So half as many tests as the previous day? Surely that's not right?

Brian Gaze
Berkhamsted
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Heavy Weather 2013
15 March 2020 15:50:55


 


So half as many tests as the previous day? Surely that's not right?


Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 


So much for saying they were aiming to test 10k a day. Not testing means less cases to report - giving the appearance cases are not going up as rapidly. 


All smoke and mirrors to me

Mark
Beckton, E London
Less than 500m from the end of London City Airport runway.
Sevendust
15 March 2020 15:51:55


 


They've simply not testing, even when they pretty much know it's covid-19.


What matters is deaths. And those are up by around 70%.


Originally Posted by: NickR 


Correct

Ally Pally Snowman
15 March 2020 15:51:59

Apparently the reason the German death rate is so low is that it doesn't include people with multiple conditions.  So its artificially low I don't know of any other country that does this.


 

Bishop's Stortford 85m ASL.
Brian Gaze
15 March 2020 15:52:36


 


No country or for that matter the WHO has put forward any plans on how to safely "emerge" from lockdown. In reality a 2nd big wave is a very real possibility, although I suppose a country could bounce along between lockdown/emergence until either herd immunity is achieved (which will depend on how many have not contracted the virus before lockdown) or a vaccine is available (probably 18 months). 


Originally Posted by: Arcus 


Only yesterday you were saying that was impossible and the only way forward was "herd immunity" through infection. 

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speckledjim
15 March 2020 15:52:41


 


So half as many tests as the previous day? Surely that's not right?


Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 


its the weekend so I guess they don’t test as many?

Thorner, West Yorkshire


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westv
15 March 2020 15:53:03
Does it really matter if there is less testing? You're never going to be able to catch all the infections anyway.
At least it will be mild!
Gavin D
15 March 2020 15:54:42
Testing to positive percentage in the latest update is 9.2%
Lionel Hutz
15 March 2020 15:55:02

Balancing act. What people have to consider is that having a wrecked economy will be far worse for the vast majority in the long term, than easing through this crisis as best we can in the short term. Even if we get massive numbers of cases like Italy, I personally would not wish for the kind of total lockdown they have undertaken. This virus will burn itself out, whether we close all businesses down or not.

Originally Posted by: Maunder Minimum 


I do not believe that it will be possible to control this disease without an Italian style lockdown. While I am reasonably optimistic about how things will pan out, it will not simply burn out all by itself. Like a fire, it needs to be starved of fuel.


I am also sure that the world economy will bounce back. No doubt, there will be some casualties but this will not be apocalypse now either. There will be unprecedented world wide government action to stimulate the economy. However,  there is a possibility that that stimulus will itself store up problems a little down the track. 

Lionel Hutz
Nr.Waterford , S E Ireland
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speckledjim
15 March 2020 15:55:06

Does it really matter if there is less testing? You're never going to be able to catch all the infections anyway.

Originally Posted by: westv 


We need testing to be consistent so that we can gauge the rise/ fall in new cases 

Thorner, West Yorkshire


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NickR
15 March 2020 15:55:06

Does it really matter if there is less testing? You're never going to be able to catch all the infections anyway.

Originally Posted by: westv 


SK has.

Nick
Durham
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Arcus
15 March 2020 15:55:25


 


Only yesterday you were saying that was impossible and the only way forward was "herd immunity" through infection. 


Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 



Of course it's not impossible, the question is whether for the UK it would be advisable!

Ben,
Nr. Easingwold, North Yorkshire
30m asl
speckledjim
15 March 2020 15:57:29


 


SK has.


Originally Posted by: NickR 


How on earth do you know that?

Thorner, West Yorkshire


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Caz
  • Caz
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15 March 2020 15:59:00


I've developed some minor symptoms (it's because my GF is nowhere near as meticulous as I am, so don't worry too much that 'even Q got it' e.c.t.). I'm not convinced I actually have COVID as all my symptoms are intestinal but will keep you posted. No cough or fever as of yet.


My gf has developed a cough though.


Originally Posted by: Quantum 

Chin up Q!  It’s probably nothing to worry about and worry won’t help anyhow.  There really are a lot of bugs going around at the moment and quite understandably, people wonder if it’s Covid 19.  I’m sure you and your GF will be fine before long!  You’re young and fit!    

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NickR
15 March 2020 15:59:38


 


How on earth do you know that?


Originally Posted by: speckledjim 


Have you seen the figures? It's under control. As it is in Taiwan and HK. Massive testing and contact tracing.

Nick
Durham
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Roger Parsons
15 March 2020 16:02:51


Chin up Q!  It’s probably nothing to worry about and worry won’t help anyhow.  There really are a lot of bugs going around at the moment and quite understandably, people wonder if it’s Covid 19.  I’m sure you and your GF will be fine before long!  You’re young and fit!    


Originally Posted by: Caz 


A friend went down with intestinal symptoms a couple of days ago, Caz  - seemingly norovirus.


She had made the mistake of eating a cup cake in a care home! Deep joy!


4 days should do it for Q. [Recovery!]


R.

RogerP
West Lindsey district of Lincolnshire
Everything taken together, here in Lincolnshire are more good things than man could have had the conscience to ask.
William Cobbett, in his Rural Rides - c.1830
speckledjim
15 March 2020 16:05:33


 


Have you seen the figures? It's under control. As it is in Taiwan and HK. Massive testing and contact tracing.


Originally Posted by: NickR 


Yes it is but there will still be many cases that are asymptomatic or with mild symptoms that they know nothing about. 

Thorner, West Yorkshire


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Roger Parsons
15 March 2020 16:07:42


Despicable.


https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/mar/15/trump-offers-large-sums-for-exclusive-access-to-coronavirus-vaccine


Trump offers 'large sums' for exclusive access to coronavirus vaccine


Originally Posted by: Ulric 


How will you feel when Trump comes to our rescue with vaccines and a new Marshall Plan, Ulric?


Imagine the discomfort of having to be grateful to him! His price - a knighthood?


R

RogerP
West Lindsey district of Lincolnshire
Everything taken together, here in Lincolnshire are more good things than man could have had the conscience to ask.
William Cobbett, in his Rural Rides - c.1830
Brian Gaze
15 March 2020 16:08:10


 



Of course it's not impossible, the question is whether for the UK it would be advisable!


Originally Posted by: Arcus 


 


Brian Gaze: I dread to think the impact on the economy if we go for 60% infection in the next 12 to 18 months to get herd immunity. That's on top of the several hundred thousand body bags which will need processing.




Arcus: Brian there's going to be 60% infection anyway no matter what we do.






Brian Gaze: Not if a vaccine is available within 18 months.


 Arcus: Absolute nonsense. You're trying to juggle jelly. 


https://www.theweatheroutlook.com/twocommunity/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1189135#post1189135


 



Brian Gaze
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Bugglesgate
15 March 2020 16:10:24


 


How will you feel when Trump comes to our rescue with vaccines and a new Marshall Plan, Ulric?


Imagine the discomfort of having to be grateful to him! His price - a knighthood?


R


Originally Posted by: Roger Parsons 


Nah, we would have to become a new  state in his union !


 


 

Chris (It,its)
Between Newbury and Basingstoke
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xioni2
15 March 2020 16:11:29

Greece nationalises all private hospitals.

Retron
15 March 2020 16:15:59

The Guardian reports that the Netherlands is going to close schools. That's interesting as they've been following a similar strategy to us so far. Ireland, Germany (second link), France, Belgium, Greece, Poland, Denmark... all of those have or will soon close theirs.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2020/mar/15/coronavirus-latest-updates-trump-tests-negative-as-spain-orders-nationwide-lockdown-uk-us-australia-italy-europe-global-economy


https://www.theguardian.com/education/2020/mar/13/coronavirus-school-closures-uk-gdp-ministers-warned
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/12/how-do-coronavirus-containment-measures-vary-across-europe


The last link contains this map - red is where all schools have closed as of Friday, yellow where some are closed and grey is where they're still open. My school has been expecting they'll be ordered to close this coming Friday for the past 2 weeks... they could well be right!



 

Leysdown, north Kent
xioni2
15 March 2020 16:16:17


 


You don't fancy being Prime Minister do you, xioni?


Originally Posted by: David M Porter 


It's a good thing I'll never be PM of this country David, as I'd become a dictator and start culling certain groups of people.

Roger Parsons
15 March 2020 16:17:41


 Nah, we would have to become a new  state in his union !


 

Originally Posted by: Bugglesgate 


Trump says: England-land is already in a state, it might as well be a State.


R.

RogerP
West Lindsey district of Lincolnshire
Everything taken together, here in Lincolnshire are more good things than man could have had the conscience to ask.
William Cobbett, in his Rural Rides - c.1830
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