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nsrobins
Tuesday, March 17, 2020 12:59:16 PM
Police advancing plans to deal with extensive civil disorder with army briefed on a potential future intervention. Focus is on London to deal with imminent uptick in lockdown measures which may border on curfew.
This is from a previously reliable source.
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Brian Gaze
Tuesday, March 17, 2020 1:00:04 PM


I am speaking to my contact who works in a school. They had 160 pupils off yesterday.


Originally Posted by: Heavy Weather 2013 


Around here it is increasingly SINO. Schools In Name Only. The farce can't be sustained until Friday IMO.

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Gavin D
Tuesday, March 17, 2020 1:00:33 PM
Wales have reported a 60% drop in confirmed cases in todays update.

They have reported 12 new cases down from 30 in yesterday's 24hr update

Wales now have 136 confirmed cases
Brian Gaze
Tuesday, March 17, 2020 1:01:04 PM

Police advancing plans to deal with extensive civil disorder with army briefed on a potential future intervention. Focus is on London to deal with imminent uptick in lockdown measures which may border on curfew.
This is from a previously reliable source.


Originally Posted by: nsrobins 


They will need to introduce internment. I don't see any other choice.

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xioni2
Tuesday, March 17, 2020 1:01:41 PM

I think the images from Cheltenham, the Liverpool game and the stereophonics gig of this wend will become iconic in future TV documentaries of this country's complacency and incompetence.


There have been several Italian ICU doctors who have been begging us over the last few days to stop what we are doing and not repeat their mistakes.


My sister also told me that the greek medical officer (an epidemiologist) was scathing today about the UK stance on his daily brief and he said that Britain is now undermining public health in Europe.


I haven't read any news today, but I don't think many people still realise what is coming in the next few weeks.


 


 


 

Quantum
Tuesday, March 17, 2020 1:01:57 PM

Personal symptoms have improved today. Wonder if I've been in that 15% or so of asymptomatic cases. Looking at some of the studies gastrointestinal symptoms are uncommon but not unheard of. I suppose will never know if I actually had COVID or just some other virus. If I wasn't linked to a confirmed case I'd say the later. In 'our cluster' there was also one other case of a person that did not develop symptoms but was definitely exposed. I have a flow chart linking back to a confirmed case and there are quite alot of cases all with very similar symptoms and with an enphasis on the gastrointestinal symptoms (but also often with fever/cough).


But yeh I've ruled out food poisoning. Because the scope is far beyond just me and my GF. Besides she's a vegan anyway so we don't often eat the same thing.


 

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18/11 (-6), 19/11 (-6)
2023/2024 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp): Total: 8 days with snow/sleet falling
29/11 (-6), 30/11 (-6), 02/12 (-5), 03/12 (-5), 04/12 (-3), 16/01 (-3), 18/01 (-8), 08/02 (-5)
2022/2023 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp): Total: 7 days with snow/sleet falling.
18/12 (-1), 06/03 (-6), 08/03 (-8), 09/03 (-6), 10/03 (-8), 11/03 (-5), 14/03 (-6)
2021/2022 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp): Total: 12 days with snow/sleet falling.
26/11 (-5), 27/11 (-7), 28/11 (-6), 02/12 (-6), 06/01 (-5), 07/01 (-6), 06/02 (-5), 19/02 (-5), 24/02 (-7), 30/03 (-7), 31/03 (-8), 01/04 (-8)
Brian Gaze
Tuesday, March 17, 2020 1:04:08 PM

Ghost flight?


https://www.flightradar24.com/RYR4667/243613e3


 

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Tuesday, March 17, 2020 1:04:41 PM


The thought of this turmoil lasting 12+ months chills me to the bone.


The societal and economic consequences would make the Great Depression seem like a blip


And millions would likely die in the aftermath due to poverty, hardship and the breakdown of state support systems.


Is there not an argument for letting this rip, accepting 250k+ deaths, and getting back to normal by mid-summer?


Originally Posted by: Saint Snow 

I can see why you’re thinking that way and I can’t say that hasn’t crossed my mind.  I think I’d risk that for myself if I were thinking illogically.  However, it’s not at all practical because I will be putting others at risk and of course, that approach will almost certainly crash the NHS.

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xioni2
Tuesday, March 17, 2020 1:05:42 PM


Personal symptoms have improved today. Wonder if I've been in that 15% or so of asymptomatic cases. Looking at some of the studies gastrointestinal symptoms are uncommon but not unheard of. I suppose will never know if I actually had COVID or just some other virus.


 

Originally Posted by: Quantum 


At some point (probably this year) there will be a test which will show if you had it or not (by testing for antibodies).

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Tuesday, March 17, 2020 1:08:24 PM

Something jogged in my memory when I mentioned ‘war footing’ earlier. My job takes (or did) me up and down the roads of the UK and in the last few weeks I’ve seen many more military convoys than normal. Last Friday the Longmoor Camp on the A3 was noticeably busy with trucks and personnel.
Might be just a coincidence?

Originally Posted by: nsrobins 


Not really.


As I mentioned in an earlier thread I saw on Sunday what looked like could be a half portacabin by the side of the road. I assumed it could be part of a checkpoint system. You will need infrastructure like this for the people who will man these installations. 


That's a visible part of the planning. The RN hasn't been in such numbers around Weymouth and Portland for many many years. Maybe not since the govt shut the navy base. There was a logistics ship used for hurricane relief there the other day. Maybe still is.


If you look at AIS zoom into the South Coast and look at Weymouth/Portland you will see a cluster of ships HMS Sutherland and a few others in what must be some kind of exercise.


https://www.marinetraffic.com/en/ais/home/centerx:-2.462/centery:50.591/zoom:12


I assume HMS Prince of Wales is the lead vessel though it's not identified on AIS.


https://www.dorsetecho.co.uk/news/18307528.aircraft-carrier-hms-prince-wales-anchors-weymouth-bay/


So a lot going on in plain view. I won't go into Lulworth or Bovington here.


 

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xioni2
Tuesday, March 17, 2020 1:08:38 PM

Police advancing plans to deal with extensive civil disorder with army briefed on a potential future intervention. Focus is on London to deal with imminent uptick in lockdown measures which may border on curfew.
This is from a previously reliable source.

Originally Posted by: nsrobins 


Yes, London is our most likely hotspot for obvious reasons. My mind keeps going to the NHS staff, I feel so sorry for them.

Brian Gaze
Tuesday, March 17, 2020 1:08:54 PM


Personal symptoms have improved today. Wonder if I've been in that 15% or so of asymptomatic cases. Looking at some of the studies gastrointestinal symptoms are uncommon but not unheard of. I suppose will never know if I actually had COVID or just some other virus. If I wasn't linked to a confirmed case I'd say the later. In 'our cluster' there was also one other case of a person that did not develop symptoms but was definitely exposed. I have a flow chart linking back to a confirmed case and there are quite alot of cases all with very similar symptoms and with an enphasis on the gastrointestinal symptoms (but also often with fever/cough).


But yeh I've ruled out food poisoning. Because the scope is far beyond just me and my GF. Besides she's a vegan anyway so we don't often eat the same thing.


 


Originally Posted by: Quantum 


I'm feeling better now and my wife is recovering too. We would like to convince ourselves we have had COVID-19 but the likelihood is we've just had a nasty cold. Self diagnosis is extremely difficult IMO.

Brian Gaze
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Gavin D
Tuesday, March 17, 2020 1:09:16 PM

bowser
Tuesday, March 17, 2020 1:10:44 PM

However long the lockdown, the one certainty is that I will still not manage to clear out and tidy my shed.

Originally Posted by: NickR 


xioni2
Tuesday, March 17, 2020 1:12:45 PM

yeah, but South Korea? They are a special case.


Singapore? They are a special case too


Hong Kong, way special case.


China? The special case, no way.


WHO keep saying to copy them? What do they know?


Pathetic for both the UK and Europe.


 





Originally Posted by: Gavin D 

Brian Gaze
Tuesday, March 17, 2020 1:13:28 PM


yeah, but South Korea? They are a special case.


Singapore? They are a special case too


Hong Kong, way special case.


China? The special case, no way.


WHO keep saying to copy them? What do they know?


Pathetic for both the UK and Europe.


 


 


Originally Posted by: xioni2 


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howham
Tuesday, March 17, 2020 1:13:44 PM
My wife have birth on Sunday morning and we are now back home. I was trying not to look much at the news if I'm honest. Speaking to the staff in the maternity hospital it didn't strike me that they had been given much forewarning of what is to come. Really glad she gave birth then rather than in a month or so. Next dilemma, my nearly 82 year old father lives alone. Generally good health though but when can he see his grandson...
xioni2
Tuesday, March 17, 2020 1:16:47 PM

My wife have birth on Sunday morning and we are now back home. I was trying not to look much at the news if I'm honest. Speaking to the staff in the maternity hospital it didn't strike me that they had been given much forewarning of what is to come. Really glad she gave birth then rather than in a month or so. Next dilemma, my nearly 82 year old father lives alone. Generally good health though but when can he see his grandson...

Originally Posted by: howham 


Congrats on your baby! I won't try to give you any practical advice, just stay informed without obsessing about it.

speckledjim
Tuesday, March 17, 2020 1:16:55 PM

My wife have birth on Sunday morning and we are now back home. I was trying not to look much at the news if I'm honest. Speaking to the staff in the maternity hospital it didn't strike me that they had been given much forewarning of what is to come. Really glad she gave birth then rather than in a month or so. Next dilemma, my nearly 82 year old father lives alone. Generally good health though but when can he see his grandson...

Originally Posted by: howham 


 


Congrats, if I was you i'd avoid this forum and just enjoy spending wonderful time with your newborn.

Thorner, West Yorkshire


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Quantum
Tuesday, March 17, 2020 1:17:25 PM

On the plus side there has not been a single confirmed ebola case this month.


Are we close to making a breakthrough?


 

2024/2025 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp): Total: 2 days with snow/sleet falling
18/11 (-6), 19/11 (-6)
2023/2024 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp): Total: 8 days with snow/sleet falling
29/11 (-6), 30/11 (-6), 02/12 (-5), 03/12 (-5), 04/12 (-3), 16/01 (-3), 18/01 (-8), 08/02 (-5)
2022/2023 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp): Total: 7 days with snow/sleet falling.
18/12 (-1), 06/03 (-6), 08/03 (-8), 09/03 (-6), 10/03 (-8), 11/03 (-5), 14/03 (-6)
2021/2022 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp): Total: 12 days with snow/sleet falling.
26/11 (-5), 27/11 (-7), 28/11 (-6), 02/12 (-6), 06/01 (-5), 07/01 (-6), 06/02 (-5), 19/02 (-5), 24/02 (-7), 30/03 (-7), 31/03 (-8), 01/04 (-8)
Brian Gaze
Tuesday, March 17, 2020 1:20:16 PM


On the plus side there has not been a single confirmed ebola case this month.


Are we close to making a breakthrough?


 


Originally Posted by: Quantum 


Perhaps corona eats it. 

Brian Gaze
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Brian Gaze
Tuesday, March 17, 2020 1:20:42 PM

My wife have birth on Sunday morning and we are now back home. I was trying not to look much at the news if I'm honest. Speaking to the staff in the maternity hospital it didn't strike me that they had been given much forewarning of what is to come. Really glad she gave birth then rather than in a month or so. Next dilemma, my nearly 82 year old father lives alone. Generally good health though but when can he see his grandson...

Originally Posted by: howham 


Yes congrats! I would avoid this forum as others have suggested. 

Brian Gaze
Berkhamsted
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Saint Snow
Tuesday, March 17, 2020 1:21:18 PM

My wife works for the NHS (admin) and she's been told by A&E staff she knows that they just had their quietest weekend for as long as anyone can remember. An odd side-effect of this crisis.


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Quantum
Tuesday, March 17, 2020 1:24:00 PM


My wife works for the NHS (admin) and she's been told by A&E staff she knows that they just had their quietest weekend for as long as anyone can remember. An odd side-effect of this crisis.


Originally Posted by: Saint Snow 


Good sign at least.


We need to get ridiculous stuff like morons getting into fights  down. Perhaps introduce a rule where we breathalize people going into A and E and don't treat people above a certain threashold.


 

2024/2025 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp): Total: 2 days with snow/sleet falling
18/11 (-6), 19/11 (-6)
2023/2024 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp): Total: 8 days with snow/sleet falling
29/11 (-6), 30/11 (-6), 02/12 (-5), 03/12 (-5), 04/12 (-3), 16/01 (-3), 18/01 (-8), 08/02 (-5)
2022/2023 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp): Total: 7 days with snow/sleet falling.
18/12 (-1), 06/03 (-6), 08/03 (-8), 09/03 (-6), 10/03 (-8), 11/03 (-5), 14/03 (-6)
2021/2022 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp): Total: 12 days with snow/sleet falling.
26/11 (-5), 27/11 (-7), 28/11 (-6), 02/12 (-6), 06/01 (-5), 07/01 (-6), 06/02 (-5), 19/02 (-5), 24/02 (-7), 30/03 (-7), 31/03 (-8), 01/04 (-8)
speckledjim
Tuesday, March 17, 2020 1:24:04 PM


My wife works for the NHS (admin) and she's been told by A&E staff she knows that they just had their quietest weekend for as long as anyone can remember. An odd side-effect of this crisis.


Originally Posted by: Saint Snow 


 


I have a number of friends who work for the NHS and they have said similar. Having said that though we only have v few cases, none of which are hospitalised. I also believe there are v few cases in Liverpool thus far. 

Thorner, West Yorkshire


Journalism is organised gossip

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