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Chunky Pea
17 March 2020 13:57:25

I am currently sitting in the sunshine on a bench well away from any other people, with a flask of coffee. I have to say getting out on my bike has made me feel much better. I hope we don’t go down the French route of total isolation. I haven’t been within 5 metres of anyone except those driving past.

Originally Posted by: Rob K 


Looking out at the grim sky and pouring rain here.  Natures very own deterrent. 


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xioni2
17 March 2020 13:57:32


 Same round here - hospitals are very quiet - there have been a very few people hospitalised because they are requiring ICU on account of COVID-19, but normal A&E is earily quiet. I guess people are not having car accidents, falling out of trees or slicing themselves with chainsaws. Muggers and knifers have nobody around to mug or knife and old dears are not collapsing at the supermarkets and shops because they are staying at home. But there will still be patients with acute conditions like appendicitus who will need treatment, there will be no let up in cardiac arrests or other sudden critical conditions.


To be honest, a lot of people present at A & E who don't really need to and perhaps if they fall over and graze a knee or bang a head, they are dealing with it themselves.


Calm before the storm if the modellers have it right and in some areas (most notably London I presume), the explosive growth in cases is already occurring.


 

Originally Posted by: Maunder Minimum 


Yeah and the problem is that like in other countries we might get one or two clusters which overwhelm the local hospitals, while many other hospitals around the country are coping fine.


It's not certain at all obviously, I don't think France has one big cluster yet, but the longer we allow community transmission, the higher risks we take.


 


 

Arcus
17 March 2020 13:58:11


 


You will be able to find out - tests will be coming on the market which will show if you have the antibodies which would have been caused by an infection.


Originally Posted by: Maunder Minimum 


Test are already available but I've heard just now there's been a massive row with Government on funding for widespread availability. Scientific community wants everyone tested in this way so we know where we're at and risk levels for 2nd wave later in the year.


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Brian Gaze
17 March 2020 13:59:23


 


Test are already available but I've heard just now there's been a massive row with Government on funding for widespread availability. Scientific community wants everyone tested in this way so we know where we're at and risk levels for 2nd wave later in the year.


Originally Posted by: Arcus 


Presumably manufacturing the test kits will need to be an international effort? I'd be staggered if the UK can quickly produce 60 million of them without help from other countries.


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xioni2
17 March 2020 13:59:32


 Test are already available but I've heard just now there's been a massive row with Government on funding for widespread availability.

Originally Posted by: Arcus 


 


Is the company behind it asking for a silly price?

chelseagirl
17 March 2020 14:00:34


 


One of the huge bonuses from this crisis would be if Ryanair went bust. That company does not deserve to exist.


Originally Posted by: RobN 


Think they are very close to it, hence no refunds. Also, I have just checked and they are allowing me to book onto the flight on saturday😳


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Maunder Minimum
17 March 2020 14:02:39


 


Yeah and the problem is that like in other countries we might get one or two clusters which overwhelm the local hospitals, while many other hospitals around the country are coping fine.


It's not certain at all obviously, I don't think France has one big cluster yet, but the longer we allow community transmission, the higher risks we take.


 


 


Originally Posted by: xioni2 


This is reported in The Times today:


"...


Speaking anonymously, the doctor said that the intensive care unit at their hospital is nearly now full with Covid-19 patients requiring breathing support machines.


“As little as two weeks ago my hospital was eerily quiet, with many patients avoiding the place. Now they are coming in quickly. We have well over 50 cases as of the weekend and our intensive care is nearly full of coronavirus patients on breathing support machines,” they told Sky News.


..."


But annoyingly, the region in which the hospital is based is not given. Could be London, or maybe not?


New world order coming.
Arcus
17 March 2020 14:03:30


 


 


Is the company behind it asking for a silly price?


Originally Posted by: xioni2 


Not sure of the ins and outs on who's providing.


SK apparently already already testing.


Ben,
Nr. Easingwold, North Yorkshire
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Quantum
17 March 2020 14:05:34

Could we not fly people to China to get treatement?


Have a truly international effort. Our survival is their survival afterall.


 


2023/2024 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):
29/11 (-6), 30/11 (-6), 02/12 (-5), 03/12 (-5), 04/12 (-3), 16/01 (-3), 18/01 (-8), 08/02 (-5)

Total: 8 days with snow/sleet falling.

2022/2023 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):

18/12 (-1), 06/03 (-6), 08/03 (-8), 09/03 (-6), 10/03 (-8), 11/03 (-5), 14/03 (-6)

Total: 7 days with snow/sleet falling.

2021/2022 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):

26/11 (-5), 27/11 (-7), 28/11 (-6), 02/12 (-6), 06/01 (-5), 07/01 (-6), 06/02 (-5), 19/02 (-5), 24/02 (-7), 30/03 (-7), 31/03 (-8), 01/04 (-8)
Total: 12 days with snow/sleet falling.
xioni2
17 March 2020 14:07:18

I knew the chump would do it sooner or later, he was late with his ignorant and dangerous stupidity, but some Asian people could still get abused because of this.


 



nsrobins
17 March 2020 14:07:58


 


I am booked on a Ryanair flight to Spain on Saturday. Obviously, I am not going however, Ryanair are not cancelling the flights, which means that I cannot get a refund.  It is impossible to go on the site and get a refund for anything. There are problems with the site accepting booking references of people whose flights have been cancelled. It keeps telling them that their ref is wrong. Funnily enough, if you want to change dates, it does work! Once flights ARE changed, it then charges you twice for luggage, and the new dates prices are far and away much more than if you were making a direct booking. I am assuming here that Ryanair are avoiding cancelling flights so they can avoid refunding people.  They are unable to get through on app/website/web chat/email/DM/ or phone so are appearing as a no show, therefore no refund. 


Originally Posted by: chelseagirl 


Interesting. I got a text this morning from Ryanair saying my flight (part of a city break in April to Madrid via Lastminute.com) had been amended but I’ve got no email and trying to find the booking on Ryanair’s site fails - keeps saying I have no account. 
The balance is due tomorrow - I’m going to stop the payment. They can come and find me rather than the other way around. I wouldn’t be surprised if the likes of Lastminute.com go under and I’d rather write off a deposit than have to chase the administrators for a full balance.


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Essan
17 March 2020 14:08:32

In light of suggestions that anti-inflammatories, such as ibuprofen, can make symptoms much worse, I wonder how many of those who have been hospitalised, rather than just having a bit of a cough for a couple of days, were on any other medications?    I am sure it's all been looked into, though ...... 


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Gavin D
17 March 2020 14:09:07
The Scottish Government have confirmed a 2nd death from coronavirus
xioni2
17 March 2020 14:09:08


Could we not fly people to China to get treatement?


Have a truly international effort. Our survival is their survival afterall.


 

Originally Posted by: Quantum 


In Italy they couldn't even transport ICU patients to other hospitals which still had plenty of ICU capacity. Not enough ambulances with ventilators and some patients died even during the short transfer from the ICU to the ambulance.

Chunky Pea
17 March 2020 14:09:44


Could we not fly people to China to get treatement?


Have a truly international effort. Our survival is their survival afterall.


 


Originally Posted by: Quantum 


China will be just fine without you. 


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warrenb
17 March 2020 14:10:18
Center Parcs to close all villages until at least the 17th April
Maunder Minimum
17 March 2020 14:11:19


In light of suggestions that anti-inflammatories, such as ibuprofen, can make symptoms much worse, I wonder how many of those who have been hospitalised, rather than just having a bit of a cough for a couple of days, were on any other medications?    I am sure it's all been looked into, though ...... 


Originally Posted by: Essan 


Article on the topic here:


https://edition.cnn.com/2020/03/16/health/coronavirus-ibuprofen-french-health-minister-scn-intl-scli/index.html


Again, it is controversial with different people saying different things.


From the article:


"France's health ministry has suggested that popular anti-inflammatory painkillers such as ibuprofen could worsen the effects of the coronavirus, raising questions over which over-the-counter drugs people should be taking to treat the symptoms of the disease.


Health Minister Olivier Veran, who has also worked as a neurologist, tweeted on Saturday that "taking anti-inflammatory drugs (ibuprofen, cortisone...) could be an aggravating factor of the infection. If you have a fever, take paracetamol. If you are already on anti-inflammatory drugs or in doubt, ask your doctor for advice.""
New world order coming.
xioni2
17 March 2020 14:11:40


 This is reported in The Times today:


"...


Speaking anonymously, the doctor said that the intensive care unit at their hospital is nearly now full with Covid-19 patients requiring breathing support machines.


“As little as two weeks ago my hospital was eerily quiet, with many patients avoiding the place. Now they are coming in quickly. We have well over 50 cases as of the weekend and our intensive care is nearly full of coronavirus patients on breathing support machines,” they told Sky News.


..."


But annoyingly, the region in which the hospital is based is not given. Could be London, or maybe not?


Originally Posted by: Maunder Minimum 


A friend of a friend works at the St Georges A&E. I don't want to give details, but she said on Sunday evening that their cases have started exploding. 

Quantum
17 March 2020 14:12:57

Anyone who has NHS contacts is it possible, if you are allowed, to give a rough capacity figure (specifically for ICU) like 50%, 90% or already 150% e.c.t. and which part of the country you are from.


 


2023/2024 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):
29/11 (-6), 30/11 (-6), 02/12 (-5), 03/12 (-5), 04/12 (-3), 16/01 (-3), 18/01 (-8), 08/02 (-5)

Total: 8 days with snow/sleet falling.

2022/2023 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):

18/12 (-1), 06/03 (-6), 08/03 (-8), 09/03 (-6), 10/03 (-8), 11/03 (-5), 14/03 (-6)

Total: 7 days with snow/sleet falling.

2021/2022 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):

26/11 (-5), 27/11 (-7), 28/11 (-6), 02/12 (-6), 06/01 (-5), 07/01 (-6), 06/02 (-5), 19/02 (-5), 24/02 (-7), 30/03 (-7), 31/03 (-8), 01/04 (-8)
Total: 12 days with snow/sleet falling.
xioni2
17 March 2020 14:19:51

The Italians are expecting their ICU admissions and number of deaths to start dropping next week, they estimate the lag between lockdown and ICU impact to about 2 weeks.


 

Maunder Minimum
17 March 2020 14:21:08


Anyone who has NHS contacts is it possible, if you are allowed, to give a rough capacity figure (specifically for ICU) like 50%, 90% or already 150% e.c.t. and which part of the country you are from.


 


Originally Posted by: Quantum 


In Worcestershire at the moment (and it appears this situation can change overnight) - according to my son-in-law, 90% ICU capacity is free.


Hospitals round here are quieter than normal as I explained above, since there are fewer accidents of the type which lead to A & E, plus the seasonal winter flu epidemic is abating.


 


New world order coming.
Quantum
17 March 2020 14:22:19


 


In Worcestershire at the moment (and it appears this situation can change overnight) - according to my son-in-law, 90% ICU capacity is free.


Hospitals round here are quieter than normal as I explained above, since there are fewer accidents of the type which lead to A & E, plus the seasonal winter flu epidemic is abating.


 


Originally Posted by: Maunder Minimum 


Wow only 10% capacity? That's encouraging.


2023/2024 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):
29/11 (-6), 30/11 (-6), 02/12 (-5), 03/12 (-5), 04/12 (-3), 16/01 (-3), 18/01 (-8), 08/02 (-5)

Total: 8 days with snow/sleet falling.

2022/2023 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):

18/12 (-1), 06/03 (-6), 08/03 (-8), 09/03 (-6), 10/03 (-8), 11/03 (-5), 14/03 (-6)

Total: 7 days with snow/sleet falling.

2021/2022 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):

26/11 (-5), 27/11 (-7), 28/11 (-6), 02/12 (-6), 06/01 (-5), 07/01 (-6), 06/02 (-5), 19/02 (-5), 24/02 (-7), 30/03 (-7), 31/03 (-8), 01/04 (-8)
Total: 12 days with snow/sleet falling.
xioni2
17 March 2020 14:22:52

Stanley Johnson, father of the UK prime minister, has indicated he would ignore official advice to tackle the spread of coronavirus and still go to the pub.

Maunder Minimum
17 March 2020 14:23:40


 


Wow only 10% capacity? That's encouraging.


Originally Posted by: Quantum 


Well not really - if we get the epidemic here, the capacity could all be used up in a day or two.


P.S. My son-in-law asked the headmaster of the school the children attend (it is a fee paying school) if any of the children or families as far as he knew had been on ski trips to the affected regions. The head master said he had asked all and none had - hopefully that is correct.


New world order coming.
Justin W
17 March 2020 14:26:32


Yo yo yo. 148-3 to the 3 to the 6 to the 9, representing the ABQ, what up, biatch?

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