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Phil G
15 April 2020 12:26:38
Just heard a stat on the BBC news which said a third of deaths here have been black/asian. I suspect if you excluded the London and Midlands figures, this would paint a different picture.
fairweather
15 April 2020 12:30:27


 


The only European neighbour we are ahead of in testing is France. The Irish have done 3 times as much for example.


Originally Posted by: speckledjim 


The testing side worries me. An acquaintance of mine was in hospital for three weeks with all the classic symptoms of Corona virus and was in ICU on oxygen. He has just come out and was only tested for the first time then. He was negative but told to stay isolated from his wife. Incidentally he seems in a lot worse way than Johnson did when he came out. Trouble speaking, weak, tired  but I have heard this of other cases.

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westv
15 April 2020 12:32:30


 


The WHO guidelines say it is 14 days, but only 7 if you’re British cabinet minister.


Originally Posted by: John p 


I thought the 14 days was if you had come into contact with someone with the virus but you hadn't yet shown any symptoms.

At least it will be mild!
Chunky Pea
15 April 2020 12:34:47


 


The only European neighbour we are ahead of in testing is France. The Irish have done 3 times as much for example.


Originally Posted by: speckledjim 


We have a far smaller population though than that of France or the UK. 

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speckledjim
15 April 2020 12:37:43


 


That doesn’t bode well for the rest of today’s figures.  I think Scotland had 40 yesterday.


Originally Posted by: John p 


I’d expect the UK figure to peak at its highest today, should then drop away as the effect of the lockdown kicks in.

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Sevendust
15 April 2020 12:38:54


 


I’d expect the UK figure to peak at its highest today, should then drop away as the effect of the lockdown kicks in.


Originally Posted by: speckledjim 


Unlikely - the sheer lag in death reporting means high figures for some time

speckledjim
15 April 2020 12:42:05
Out of 210 countries and territories with CV, Greenland is the only one that now has zero active cases.
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speckledjim
15 April 2020 12:44:20


 


Unlikely - the sheer lag in death reporting means high figures for some time


Originally Posted by: Sevendust 


Yes, it will clearly remain high for a while but I do think today’s figures will be the highest as they will also reflect the slow reporting over the Easter weekend. Of course, it is just my opinion and I could be wrong 

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NickR
15 April 2020 12:44:43

Out of 210 countries and territories with CV, Greenland is the only one that now has zero active cases.

Originally Posted by: speckledjim 


Tristan da Cunha can't possibly have any.

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15 April 2020 12:45:28


 


I thought the 14 days was if you had come into contact with someone with the virus but you hadn't yet shown any symptoms.


Originally Posted by: westv 

I think there is some confusion between incubation and isolation here, although one should reflect the other and none of it is really clear.  When I came home from Asia, it was 14 days isolation if you had symptoms, or if you’d visited countries affected, or been in contact with anyone with symptoms.  That suggests a 14 day incubation period.


However, now they say if you have symptoms and live alone, you isolate for 7 days, or 14 if someone else lives with you.  That suggests you could have been contagious for seven days before symptoms and will be for another 7.

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The Beast from the East
15 April 2020 12:46:21

If England numbers jump as well, then we know the weekend effect is real and last week wasn't a coincidence

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The Beast from the East
15 April 2020 12:47:58


 


Tristan da Cunha can't possibly have any.


Originally Posted by: NickR 


Whats happening in Venezuela? I assume a massive cover up


I've heard about Brazil, but not Argentina

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John p
15 April 2020 12:48:49

I’m still confused by this.  All the noises we’re hearing are that we’re near the peak, admissions are dropping etc.  I do understand the Nightingales already built were good to have just in case,  but why carry on with the others if they’re so confident we’re near the peak?  


Is it possible that this first lockdown was to get these all in place, in anticipation of a much larger second peak?  I think it’s dawning on people that we can’t hold this off until a vaccine is available next year and we will unfortunately have to get back to closer to business as usual (but with some social distancing) and just hope that the NHS manages once the capacity is in place?  This seems logical to me   but also could be tragic in terms of deaths.


 



 


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Brian Gaze
15 April 2020 12:49:55


I’m still confused by this.  All the noises we’re hearing are that we’re near the peak, admissions are dropping etc.  I do understand the Nightingales already built were good to have just in case,  but why carry on with the others if they’re so confident we’re near the peak?  


Is it possible that this first lockdown was to get these all in place, in anticipation of a much larger second peak?  I think it’s dawning on people that we can’t hold this off until a vaccine is available next year and we will unfortunately have to get back to closer to business as usual (but with some social distancing) and just hope that the NHS manages once the capacity is in place?  This seems logical to me   but also could be tragic in terms of deaths.


 



 



Originally Posted by: John p 


Wave 2.

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John p
15 April 2020 12:53:12


 


Wave 2.


Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 


Does that mean you agree with my second paragraph? It’s quite scary but i’m starting to think it’s inevitable.

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Quantum
15 April 2020 12:53:20


I’m still confused by this.  All the noises we’re hearing are that we’re near the peak, admissions are dropping etc.  I do understand the Nightingales already built were good to have just in case,  but why carry on with the others if they’re so confident we’re near the peak?  


Is it possible that this first lockdown was to get these all in place, in anticipation of a much larger second peak?  I think it’s dawning on people that we can’t hold this off until a vaccine is available next year and we will unfortunately have to get back to closer to business as usual (but with some social distancing) and just hope that the NHS manages once the capacity is in place?  This seems logical to me   but also could be tragic in terms of deaths.


 



 



Originally Posted by: John p 


Are the nightinggales able to act as quarantined facilities?
If so in the next phase you might use them to move COVID patients and keep only non COVID patients in the regular hospitals.

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speckledjim
15 April 2020 12:53:45


 


Tristan da Cunha can't possibly have any.


Originally Posted by: NickR 


I mean those countries where it has been confirmed 

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llamedos
15 April 2020 12:54:58

I think it's a pretty much given that unfortunately today's combined UK total is likely to be the highest we've seen, as a result of missing information over the Easter period. I mentioned a while back that I thought the figures Wednesday to Thursday this week would be skewed and significantly higher. 

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haggishunter
15 April 2020 12:58:59
National Records of Scotland figures up to 12th April for all CV deaths stands at 962. The in hospital tested positive CV deaths reported by health boards was 566 as of 12th April.

If that is relfective of the UK as a whole, we are already passed 20,000 CV deaths. 😞
Gavin D
15 April 2020 13:01:44
Wales have reported 272 new cases and 60 new deaths
Gavin D
15 April 2020 13:03:56
Scotland have reported 390 new cases and 84 new deaths
Brian Gaze
15 April 2020 13:06:17


 


Does that mean you agree with my second paragraph? It’s quite scary but i’m starting to think it’s inevitable.


Originally Posted by: John p 


As a medical "pleb" I see no reason at all why the virus won't rapidly start circulating again once the restrictions are eased and lifted. The only realistic hope is that the summer may slow it down for a few months. 

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JHutch
15 April 2020 13:08:12

A 106 year old woman treated at Birmingham's City Hospital has recovered from coronavirus and is thought to be the oldest person in the UK to have recovered from it (so far)

llamedos
15 April 2020 13:08:13

National Records of Scotland figures up to 12th April for all CV deaths stands at 962. The in hospital tested positive CV deaths reported by health boards was 566 as of 12th April.

If that is relfective of the UK as a whole, we are already passed 20,000 CV deaths. :(

Originally Posted by: haggishunter 

That's a very worrying statistic. I assume that now includes all care home deaths? 

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SJV
15 April 2020 13:08:14

Today's the day we breach the unwanted milestone of 1000 daily deaths isn't it? Figures from Scotland and Wales are high 

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