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Heavy Weather 2013
15 April 2020 13:09:25
6 further people have died in NI

That’s 150 deaths reported across 3/4 nations so far. England data to come.
Mark
Beckton, E London
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Sevendust
15 April 2020 13:09:35


 


As a medical "pleb" I see no reason at all why the virus won't rapidly start circulating again once the restrictions are eased and lifted. The only realistic hope is that the summer may slow it down for a few months. 


Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 


The key risk


I think you are right about why they continue to build emergency capacity


Wave 2 will doubtless come as we ease lockdown and the hope will be that we have the beds to cope as it unfolds

Gavin D
15 April 2020 13:09:53

Scotland, Wales and NI are a combined 150 new deaths

llamedos
15 April 2020 13:10:54


Today's the day we breach the unwanted milestone of 1000 daily deaths isn't it? Figures from Scotland and Wales are high 


Originally Posted by: SJV 

Looking increasingly likely Steve


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Brian Gaze
15 April 2020 13:11:32


Today's the day we breach the unwanted milestone of 1000 daily deaths isn't it? Figures from Scotland and Wales are high 


Originally Posted by: SJV 


To put it crudely it presumably depends on whether there is "bottlenecking" or not.


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15 April 2020 13:12:05


Darren
Crowthorne, Berks (87m asl)
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Gavin D
15 April 2020 13:12:24
Breaking: NHS England announce 651 new deaths

Brian Gaze
15 April 2020 13:13:33

Breaking: NHS England announce 651 new deaths

Originally Posted by: Gavin D 


 Well down. That's caught a few people on the hop. 


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llamedos
15 April 2020 13:14:15

Breaking: NHS England announce 651 new deaths

Originally Posted by: Gavin D 

I'm genuinely surprised ?


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John p
15 April 2020 13:14:16


 


To put it crudely it presumably depends on whether there is "bottlenecking" or not.


Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 


They could easily massage them and spread them out edit: now released and surprisingly low.


Camberley, Surrey
Heavy Weather 2013
15 April 2020 13:15:04


 


 Well down. That's caught a few people on the hop. 


Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 


Yes this is surprising if not welcome news. Obviously no death should be welcomed but I am glad we have seen such a significant drop.


Mark
Beckton, E London
Less than 500m from the end of London City Airport runway.
The Beast from the East
15 April 2020 13:15:15


 


 Well down. That's caught a few people on the hop. 


Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 


Curve flattened?!


 


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John p
15 April 2020 13:15:52


I'm genuinely surprised ?


Originally Posted by: llamedos 


It does seem odd when Wales and Scotland have recorded their highest daily figures.


Camberley, Surrey
Gavin D
15 April 2020 13:16:40


 


It does seem odd when Wales and Scotland have recorded their highest daily figures.


Originally Posted by: John p 


 


Maybe the peak is taking longer to reach Scotland and Wales?

llamedos
15 April 2020 13:17:08


 


To put it crudely it presumably depends on whether there is "bottlenecking" or not.


Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 

Well given today's data if there isn't "bottlenecking" there must be some cautious optimism 


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speckledjim
15 April 2020 13:18:47


I'm genuinely surprised ?


Originally Posted by: llamedos 


Me too, that’s v good news if that trend continues....let’s hope that hospital admissions and ICU requirements continue to trend downwards


Thorner, West Yorkshire


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Gavin D
15 April 2020 13:18:49

Breakdown of the 651 new deaths in England by date



  • 113 on April 14th

  • 277 on April 13th

  • 103 on April 12th

  • 151 between April 1st and April 11th

  • 7 in March with one on March 23rd

The Beast from the East
15 April 2020 13:18:57


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The Beast from the East
15 April 2020 13:20:49


 


It does seem odd when Wales and Scotland have recorded their highest daily figures.


Originally Posted by: John p 


Well, Cummings is back at work so you never know


But if we assume the numbers are genuine, perhaps we are really on the down slope and we might get a date for ending the lockdown at the meeting tomorrow


 


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John p
15 April 2020 13:21:26


Breakdown of the 651 new deaths in England by date



  • 113  on April 14th

  • 277 on April 13th

  • 103 occurred on April 12th

  • 151 between April 1st and April 11th

  • 7 in March with one on March 23rd


Originally Posted by: Gavin D 


When you look at them broken down like this, I still don’t see how we can usefully analyse the daily trends.  It’s farcical, and yet media narratives and government policy are potentially set by it.  We need retrospective graphs of the dates the actual deaths occurred.


Camberley, Surrey
Sevendust
15 April 2020 13:21:50

Cynic mode suggests tomorrow will be big to coincide with the review to emphasise to the plebs that it's not over and retain lockdown

The Beast from the East
15 April 2020 13:24:51


 


When you look at them broken down like this, I still don’t see how we can usefully analyse the daily trends.  It’s farcical, and yet media narratives and government policy are potentially set by it.  We need retrospective graphs of the dates the actual deaths occurred.


Originally Posted by: John p 


Very much agree. We need to do it weekly to go by a weekly average


The impression you get from the news is that all these people died yesterday, which is obviously not the case


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The Beast from the East
15 April 2020 13:25:57

At least we don't live in America!


 




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Darren S
15 April 2020 13:26:45


 


When you look at them broken down like this, I still don’t see how we can usefully analyse the daily trends.  It’s farcical, and yet media narratives and government policy are potentially set by it.  We need retrospective graphs of the dates the actual deaths occurred.


Originally Posted by: John p 


That is what this is showing (top right graph, below the map) as the numbers don't relate to anything I've seen elsewhere. Note that the graph I mentioned is only for England and not for the rest of the UK.


https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/


Darren
Crowthorne, Berks (87m asl)
South Berks Winter Snow Depth Totals:
2023/24 0 cm; 2022/23 7 cm; 2021/22 1 cm; 2020/21 13 cm; 2019/20 0 cm; 2018/19 14 cm; 2017/18 23 cm; 2016/17 0 cm; 2015/16 0.5 cm; 2014/15 3.5 cm; 2013/14 0 cm; 2012/13 22 cm; 2011/12 7 cm; 2010/11 6 cm; 2009/10 51 cm
Heavy Weather 2013
15 April 2020 13:26:47


 


When you look at them broken down like this, I still don’t see how we can usefully analyse the daily trends.  It’s farcical, and yet media narratives and government policy are potentially set by it.  We need retrospective graphs of the dates the actual deaths occurred.


Originally Posted by: John p 

 


Totally agree John. 


It can’t be that hard for PHE to do. I suspect we may have already supposed that daily 1000 figure


Mark
Beckton, E London
Less than 500m from the end of London City Airport runway.

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