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mulattokid
12 November 2020 19:44:29


 


You are forgetting  a few of the years after December 2010 , that certainly wasn't the be all and end all in terms of snow , we have had several falls since then .


Originally Posted by: Gooner 


Thanks for your reply. 


This post was nothing to do with normal 'run of the mill' snow fall in the UK or northern Europe.


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White Meadows
12 November 2020 21:35:54
Nice cool down over Europe later in the month. It’s been sooo mild

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White Meadows
12 November 2020 21:42:43
Another faux Greenland HP in lala land. Looks nice on the wrapping paper but I know there’s a turd inside.
Bolty
13 November 2020 02:26:26

Models trying to push winds into more of a north-westerly from around a week's time. I doubt it would bring much of note, but it would feel more seasonal (if it came off, of course).


Scott
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Tim A
13 November 2020 06:49:42
Some interest late next week, possible snow event , most likely Scotland.
https://www.wetterzentrale.de/maps/GFSOPEU00_186_1.png 

https://www.wetterzentrale.de/maps/ECMOPEU00_192_1.png 

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NW Leeds
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ballamar
13 November 2020 06:51:41
The 9 day ECM chart is quite interesting from. Northern hemisphere perspective. If that Arctic high could inflate could be some decent cold
Ally Pally Snowman
13 November 2020 07:05:32

The 9 day ECM chart is quite interesting from. Northern hemisphere perspective. If that Arctic high could inflate could be some decent cold

Originally Posted by: ballamar 


 


Yes very good run first significant snow for northern hills. 


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13 November 2020 08:06:12

16-dayer continues to move cold air into  NW Europe, and although temps are still above average to the NE, some ultra-cold air appearing there in week 2 should change that. N Scotland also colder in week 2, but not connected. Large amounts of pptn for NW coasts of Europe week 1, still hanging around in week 2 plus more in the eastern Med by then.


GFS shows LP running past NW Scotland to Mon 23rd with rather closer approach than yesterday, mild SW-lies alternating with cod NW-lies. HP then pops up Rockall 1030 mb Thu 26th and briefly adopts a nice blocking position over Iceland before ridging down from there to SE Europe Sun 29th with UK on its western edge.


GEFS temps oscillating high then low and repeat until Fri 20th; after which mean of runs is near norm but not meaningful as so little agreement. Some rain throughout with heaviest around Mon 16th and Fri 20th in the S but at any time in the N. Double-digit snow rows for Inverness around the 20th, still some meaningful figures after that.


ECM also has the train of LPs passing Scotland but the last of these sticks over Scandi and introduces a strong N-ly Mon 23rd.


BBC last night presented a large HP off Ireland for middle of next week as an alternative to persistent LPs, but with low probability - don't know whether that scenario survived.


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David M Porter
13 November 2020 08:57:10

The models are starting to look a little more promising as they go further into FI this morning, although there will no doubt be more changes in the coming runs. They are at least starting to show some signs of what the MetO updates have been suggesting for the period approaching the start of December.


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Russwirral
13 November 2020 11:45:52

Increasingly wintry for the months end.


 


This setup has been in the charts for 2 days now...


 



haggishunter
13 November 2020 13:10:41


Increasingly wintry for the months end.


 


This setup has been in the charts for 2 days now...


 



Originally Posted by: Russwirral 


 


Might we get some Pennine Skiing before Scottish Skiing (lockdown permitting)? 

ballamar
13 November 2020 19:50:08
Colder trends appearing could be some seasonal weather in Northern parts in 8+ days
JACKO4EVER
13 November 2020 20:15:59

Colder trends appearing could be some seasonal weather in Northern parts in 8+ days

Originally Posted by: ballamar 


possibly, but in the reliable timeframe there is plenty of wet and windy weather to get through in the next few days. 

Heavy Weather 2013
13 November 2020 22:00:10
I took a few days break from the models and was pleasantly surprised. The 12z control run was very festive
Mark
Beckton, E London
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idj20
13 November 2020 22:57:09

Yeah I'm finding it hard to get excited about the latest round of mid-range outputs as the only thing the "northern blocking high" seem to be doing is forcing compact but active lows to run further south across the UK = yet more unwanted wet and windy conditions to England and Wales, although it may bring some wintry weather to the Scottish Highlands for a few days. 


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CField
14 November 2020 07:35:39

Nice cooldown  in the east..


UK might get lucky in December


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14 November 2020 07:38:36

Don't get too excited -  a bit of snow on northern hills is about a par result for mid-November. Meanwhile, instead of hopecasting, try the computer version:


Jetstream generally W-ly across some part or other of the UK for the next week and working to a crescendo Fri 20th in the N and the following day further S. some looping follows but a strong blast from the SW is back Thu 26th covering all UK before a quieter spell with a loop encircling the UK. The positive for cold weather fans is that once it's passed over the UK, it's getting diverted, mostly S, sometimes N, and blocked from travelling on into continental Europe.


GFS has a mobile pattern from the Atlantic with LPs rushing past the UK and for most days a SW=ly flow of air. Occasionally a depression dips into the N Sea and introduces a brief but usually strong N-ly - see Thu 19th, and especially Sun 22nd 970mb, the latter being strong enough to push the Euro/Scandi HP out of the way S-wards for a couple of days.


GEFS has brief bursts of mildness Wed 18th and (for the S) Sun 22nd, as LPs approach with SW-ly fetch on leading edge, but below average between and after. Little agreement between runs from Wed 25th. Rain on and off throughout, heavier in N and W. 


ECM agrees to Thu 19th, but then quite different; it misses out the deep LP shown by GFS on Sun 22nd, keeping the Scandi HP in place and developing a depression running SW to Cornwall by Tue 24th


 


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doctormog
14 November 2020 07:39:00

Long before that (on Friday), after a prolonged mild period, this would be a bit of a shock here 



richardabdn
14 November 2020 10:00:52


Long before that (on Friday), after a prolonged mild period, this would be a bit of a shock here 



Originally Posted by: doctormog 


Would mean this month continuing as a virtual repeat of November 2015 only worse.


Mild SW'lies during the first week followed by a switch to a repugnant SE'ly gloomfest in the second week. By mid-month it was the worst Autumn I had recorded for lack of cold... until now.


Then the weekend of 21st/22nd November saw a cold snap and snow which of course turned out to be the coldest and snowiest spell of the "winter". However the lenticular clouds at sunset on the 21st were more impressive than the snow.


Was a further dusting at the end of November 2015 before six weeks of abject horror set in 


 


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Heavy Weather 2013
14 November 2020 10:52:58
GFS 138hrs so fascinating.

We’ve sort of stumbled into a cold and potentially wintry pattern. Remains to be seen if we will see any wintry weather. But things are much more infesting right now.
Mark
Beckton, E London
Less than 500m from the end of London City Airport runway.
idj20
14 November 2020 11:22:06

GFS 138hrs so fascinating.

We’ve sort of stumbled into a cold and potentially wintry pattern. Remains to be seen if we will see any wintry weather. But things are much more infesting right now.

Originally Posted by: Heavy Weather 2013 



Only for the whole thing to get blasted away by a runner low literally 24 hours later and then stuck in a near constant south westerly airflow thereafter in the rest of that run.

Next! 


Folkestone Harbour. 
nsrobins
14 November 2020 12:03:26




Only for the whole thing to get blasted away by a runner low literally 24 hours later and then stuck in a near constant south westerly airflow thereafter in the rest of that run.

Next! 


Originally Posted by: idj20 


You sound surprised.


All looks fairly typical mid-Nov to me. 


Neil
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marco 79
14 November 2020 18:06:51
12z..so near something appreciably cold in the latter stages...we shall see..
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marting
14 November 2020 19:02:05
The ECM at 240 is off on another cold option offering waiting in the east. Entertaining FI season is well and truly with us👍😂
Martin
Greasby, Wirral.
ballamar
14 November 2020 19:36:18
At least some interesting charts so there is reasonable data to mean it’s possible. Would be good at least to see Europe cool down

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