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Gavin D
17 March 2020 15:18:43

NHS England chief Simon Stevens



  • 98,000 general and acute beds in the NHS

  • Current occupancy is 90% and falling

  • There are 3,700 critical care beds

  • 6,699 adult mechanical ventilators operational

  • 750 pediatric ventilators

  • 691 in the private sector

  • 35 in the MoD

  • Expecting 3,799 (ventilators) coming on line in next few weeks taking total to 11,974

doctormog
17 March 2020 15:19:14
70% ethanol was our lab's standard for cleaning surfaces etc.
Heavy Weather 2013
17 March 2020 15:19:28

The queen will be moving to Windsor from the 19 March 2020.


I suspect this 'could' mean that a full Lock-down in London will take place from Friday morning.


 


Mark
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xioni2
17 March 2020 15:20:45

70% ethanol was our lab's standard for cleaning surfaces etc.

Originally Posted by: doctormog 


And 80% for drinking it after work?

doctormog
17 March 2020 15:21:32


 


And 80% for drinking it after work?


Originally Posted by: xioni2 



Brian Gaze
17 March 2020 15:23:11

More good news. Hopefully it will encourage more civilised and intellectual debate.




BBC's Question Time to lose studio audience


Question Time, the BBC's flagship political debate programme, will proceed without an audience during the coronavirus outbreak.


The show, which normally sees political figures and commentators take questions from a studio audience, will also move to a prime time slot on BBC One.


The practicalities of how to continue taking questions is "still being worked on", BBC media editor Amol Rajan said.


 




 
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speckledjim
17 March 2020 15:23:36


NHS England chief Simon Stevens



  • 98,000 general and acute beds in the NHS

  • Current occupancy is 90% and falling

  • There are 3,700 critical care beds

  • 6,699 adult mechanical ventilators operational

  • 750 pediatric ventilators

  • 691 in the private sector

  • 35 in the MoD

  • Expecting 3,799 (ventilators) coming on line in next few weeks taking total to 11,974


Originally Posted by: Gavin D 


 



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NickR
17 March 2020 15:25:01

3m ago 15:20







A claim by Britain’s chief scientific advisor in testimony to MPs ( reported earlier) that Taiwan has been successful in containing coronavirus without closing schools is at best somewhat disingenuous, at worst inaccurate.


Taiwan was already on winter break for the Chinese Lunar New year holiday when the scale of the threat became evident to its leadership, which includes an epidemiologist, Vice President Chen Chien-jen.


In response, they extended the winter break. They also promised to extend the summer term, so holidays in July would start two weeks later and as a result children wouldn’t lose any of their classroom time. That may have been the basis of the claim by Sir Patrick Vallance, the UK government’s chief scientific advisor.


But there is no question that schools were closed in February when they would normally have been open. And when the closures were announced, the minister of health and welfare Chen Shih-chung specified that disease control specialists had “suggested pushing back the start of classes to reduce the risk of clustered infections,” according to the Taipei Times.


The government even brought in a special type of parental childcare leave “to prevent infection”, for those workers who needed time off to care for school-age kids.



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Brian Gaze
17 March 2020 15:25:27

Actually what's the view on freezing? Our butcher is delivering our order tomorrow morning and the Mrs thinks it best to put the uncooked meat straight into the freezer. 


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xioni2
17 March 2020 15:25:59

If we have to stay at home for prolonged periods, I am thinking how lucky we are to have the Internet. Books and board games and gardening etc. can always help, but the Internet will make a lot of difference. 

Chunky Pea
17 March 2020 15:27:02


Yeah, they expect stabilisation this week and then the daily number of deaths to start dropping next week. Let's hope they are right, because there is not much else they can do.


 


 


Originally Posted by: xioni2 


Let's hope so, but I just don't think it will happen that 'cleanly'. 


I want to be wrong. 


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Caz
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17 March 2020 15:27:03


Genuine question.


I have the necessary chemicals and ingredients to make cheese. Do you think there is any advantage in doing so?


Will obviously keep the whey and drink it. Cheese itself will store for longer than fresh milk.


 


Originally Posted by: Quantum 

If it’s Just to provide for a possible shortage over the next 3or 4 months, you could make soft cheese but it takes quite a while for hard cheese to mature and needs the right conditions, so buying it and freezing it might the best.  You can also freeze fresh milk.  If it’s for something to do while in isolation, I think it’s an interesting experiment.  


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xioni2
17 March 2020 15:28:17


Actually what's the view on freezing? Our butcher is delivering our order tomorrow morning and the Mrs thinks it best to put the uncooked meat straight into the freezer. 


Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 


Liquid nitrogen could work.


Chunky Pea
17 March 2020 15:29:15

Most have probably seen this already, but it is cheering all the same! 


https://twitter.com/gnuman1979/status/1239523796542992387


 


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nouska
17 March 2020 15:29:33


 


Discussed this with Brian yesterday - he is leaving packages unopened and untouched for 24 hours.


Is there a better idea?


The real problem comes with foodstuffs, like the milk we get delivered and the online shopping many people use - you cannot leave food unopened.


Originally Posted by: Maunder Minimum 


I'm at high risk so have been unwrapping fresh produce with single use disposable gloves. I then wrap food in poly bags and put to fridge or freezer.


Only using frozen fruit and veg - salads are out till I can grow my own.                             

Maunder Minimum
17 March 2020 15:29:48


The queen will be moving to Windsor from the 19 March 2020.


I suspect this 'could' mean that a full Lock-down in London will take place from Friday morning.


 


Originally Posted by: Heavy Weather 2013 


Interesting thought - M25 ring fenced and nobody allowed to leave.


New world order coming.
xioni2
17 March 2020 15:31:08


 Interesting thought - M25 ring fenced and nobody allowed to leave.


Originally Posted by: Maunder Minimum 


We could even go back to the EU and have the Schengen border around the M25.


Quantum
17 March 2020 15:32:27


Actually what's the view on freezing? Our butcher is delivering our order tomorrow morning and the Mrs thinks it best to put the uncooked meat straight into the freezer. 


Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 


I suspect it may depend on how. If you form very small ice crystals I suspect you may be able to puncture the virus whilst larger ice crystals probably leave it untouched. So flash freezing may have an effect. Slower freezing probably not.


Imo don't go down this route. Even if the flash freezing hypothesis is true, it's not tested. We know heat denatures it, whilst cold can have the opposite effect.


If in doubt, heat, don't freeze.


 


2023/2024 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):
29/11 (-6), 30/11 (-6), 02/12 (-5), 03/12 (-5), 04/12 (-3), 16/01 (-3), 18/01 (-8), 08/02 (-5)

Total: 8 days with snow/sleet falling.

2022/2023 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):

18/12 (-1), 06/03 (-6), 08/03 (-8), 09/03 (-6), 10/03 (-8), 11/03 (-5), 14/03 (-6)

Total: 7 days with snow/sleet falling.

2021/2022 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):

26/11 (-5), 27/11 (-7), 28/11 (-6), 02/12 (-6), 06/01 (-5), 07/01 (-6), 06/02 (-5), 19/02 (-5), 24/02 (-7), 30/03 (-7), 31/03 (-8), 01/04 (-8)
Total: 12 days with snow/sleet falling.
Maunder Minimum
17 March 2020 15:32:46


 


We could even go back to the EU.



Originally Posted by: xioni2 


What EU? It is a husk now.


New world order coming.
Caz
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17 March 2020 15:33:43


As a means to preserve eggs?


The bulk of the calorific content of pasta will be the wheat flower and that can be stored indefinitely for all intents and purposes.


Plus you can use chickpeas as an emulsifier if you really get desparate!


Originally Posted by: Quantum 

You can freeze eggs too but obviously not in their shells. 


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xioni2
17 March 2020 15:34:10


 What EU? It is a husk now.


Originally Posted by: Maunder Minimum 


The Empire will strike back.

Heavy Weather 2013
17 March 2020 15:34:43


 


Interesting thought - M25 ring fenced and nobody allowed to leave.


Originally Posted by: Maunder Minimum 


Yes, the queen currently at Buckingham Palace, easy for her to not be around people. I suspect for security reasons determine that it would be easier to have her in Windsow.


This is obviously hypothetical. 


Mark
Beckton, E London
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Quantum
17 March 2020 15:36:27


 


I'm at high risk so have been unwrapping fresh produce with single use disposable gloves. I then wrap food in poly bags and put to fridge or freezer.


Only using frozen fruit and veg - salads are out till I can grow my own.                             


Originally Posted by: nouska 


The fridge is probably the best possible environment for the virus. Moist, and about 4C, those are 'lab' type conditions where the virus can live potentially months.


 


Cold does not kill the virus. If in doubt heat.


 


2023/2024 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):
29/11 (-6), 30/11 (-6), 02/12 (-5), 03/12 (-5), 04/12 (-3), 16/01 (-3), 18/01 (-8), 08/02 (-5)

Total: 8 days with snow/sleet falling.

2022/2023 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):

18/12 (-1), 06/03 (-6), 08/03 (-8), 09/03 (-6), 10/03 (-8), 11/03 (-5), 14/03 (-6)

Total: 7 days with snow/sleet falling.

2021/2022 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):

26/11 (-5), 27/11 (-7), 28/11 (-6), 02/12 (-6), 06/01 (-5), 07/01 (-6), 06/02 (-5), 19/02 (-5), 24/02 (-7), 30/03 (-7), 31/03 (-8), 01/04 (-8)
Total: 12 days with snow/sleet falling.
Brian Gaze
17 March 2020 15:37:01


 


Yes, the queen currently at Buckingham Palace, easy for her to not be around people. I suspect for security reasons determine that it would be easier to have her in Windsow.


This is obviously hypothetical. 


Originally Posted by: Heavy Weather 2013 


It could also be because of concerns about civil disorder. 


Brian Gaze
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17 March 2020 15:37:26


NHS England chief Simon Stevens



  • 98,000 general and acute beds in the NHS

  • Current occupancy is 90% and falling

  • There are 3,700 critical care beds

  • 6,699 adult mechanical ventilators operational

  • 750 pediatric ventilators

  • 691 in the private sector

  • 35 in the MoD

  • Expecting 3,799 (ventilators) coming on line in next few weeks taking total to 11,974


Originally Posted by: Gavin D 


Regarding the ventilators, how does that total now compare? (to other nations)


It all reads like good news but will it stay that way?


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