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David M Porter
Monday, June 10, 2024 9:02:51 AM

Helen Willetts on Countryfile would agree with you. Last night she attributed the high average temp for Spring to the mild nights that we've had, and in particular pointed out that large parts of the country had had no frost during this time.

Originally Posted by: DEW 



In my neck of the woods, May was the only month of the spring that produced any notable daytime warmth as far as I recall. March started not badly for weather with some reasonably springlike days but then went downhill from the second week onwards, with fairly typical temperatures for that time of year. The first fortnight of April was awful here and from what I recall reading on this forum at the time, it was little if any better elsewhere in the UK. Added to that, temperatures here on most days during that period seemed to be average at best or below, rather than above. April did warm up a bit after the weather improved during mid-month, but there was no notable warmth here unlike what we have had at times in numerous recent Aprils.

I agree with Helen Willetts that aside from the high temperatures of last month, it was must have been mainly the lack of cold nights and frost throughout the spring that was mostly behind the overall warmth of the season.
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ozone_aurora
Monday, June 10, 2024 9:21:27 AM
I think the mild nights are due to frequent cloudy conditions. I certainly haven't done much astrophotography at all for ages. 
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Ally Pally Snowman
Monday, June 10, 2024 9:32:57 AM

I think the mild nights are due to frequent cloudy conditions. I certainly haven't done much astrophotography at all for ages. 

Originally Posted by: ozone_aurora 



It really was a remarkable run of frost free nights I'd hazard a guess unprecedented.  We had maybe one or 2 frosts for all of February,  March and April here. 
 
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Ally Pally Snowman
Monday, June 10, 2024 12:14:36 PM
Glimmers again from the models of warmer/settled weather day 10+. We've been here before and it came to nothing. So v early days. Lots of crap to get through first.
 
Bishop's Stortford 85m ASL.
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Jiries
Monday, June 10, 2024 12:48:04 PM

Glimmers again from the models of warmer/settled weather day 10+. We've been here before and it came to nothing. So v early days. Lots of crap to get through first.
 

Originally Posted by: Ally Pally Snowman 



Models had been useless and very poor as I stand and a lot worst performance than before and never allow us any seasonal weather so I partly blame at them for this.   Very sad as we are nearing the longest day and all those potential useable long daylight had been vastly wasted.  Could had be a record highest June temps for UK at least 37-38C as other countries already getting their record broken.
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cultman1
Monday, June 10, 2024 1:09:16 PM
I still see no sign of anything remotely resembling above average  temperatures in the medium term especially if the Met Office is anything to go by. From this weekend for the south at least rain and heavy showers are forecast and a sort of recovery to around just below normal temperatures for the London area
Jiries
Monday, June 10, 2024 1:40:54 PM

I still see no sign of anything remotely resembling above average  temperatures in the medium term especially if the Met Office is anything to go by. From this weekend for the south at least rain and heavy showers are forecast and a sort of recovery to around just below normal temperatures for the London area

Originally Posted by: cultman1 



Mark my word they will claim June 2024 the warmest on record 🙄 despite latest ensembles I saw now is well below average to just tad below to average no single day above. Rain spikes record daily no dry days on the graph.  
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Retron
Monday, June 10, 2024 1:58:30 PM

Mark my word they will claim June 2024 the warmest on record 🙄 despite latest ensembles I saw now is well below average to just tad below to average no single day above. Rain spikes record daily no dry days on the graph.  

Originally Posted by: Jiries 


It is the warmest on record so far, both in the northern hemisphere and the globe as a whole.

https://climatereanalyzer.org/clim/t2_daily/?dm_id=world 
https://climatereanalyzer.org/clim/t2_daily/?dm_id=nh 

We've just been incredibly fortunate (or unlucky if you're a heat-hound) to end up in one of the colder than average areas!

https://climatereanalyzer.org/wx/todays-weather/maps/gfs_world-wt_t2anom_d1.png 
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Ally Pally Snowman
Monday, June 10, 2024 4:47:16 PM
The GFS 12z takes us to the Promised Land . Amen 🙏 
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Matty H
Monday, June 10, 2024 5:17:32 PM

It certainly doesn’t look great if your definition of summer is long periods of very warm or hot, sunny weather. The point here, I think, is how expectations have gradually shifted as a result of climate change. It’s perhaps noteworthy for this reason: I’m pretty sure we’re still around what was average in the 1961-1990 base period.

Originally Posted by: Gandalf The White 



Except I didn’t say that
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Matty H
Monday, June 10, 2024 5:20:14 PM

Helen Willetts on Countryfile would agree with you. Last night she attributed the high average temp for Spring to the mild nights that we've had, and in particular pointed out that large parts of the country had had no frost during this time.

Originally Posted by: DEW 



Because she didn’t misinterpret me I guess

The lack of any sustained (few days plus) high temps at all, and a succession of temps even around 70+ for a sustained period (few days plus) for more than a couple of days IS utterly noteworthy in recent years here

(edit - just checked I didn’t write that I expect it to be 110f for 6 months straight)
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Ally Pally Snowman
Monday, June 10, 2024 5:37:44 PM
Little ensemble support for the GFS 12z Op. But the ensembles do show an improving trend at least.
 
Bishop's Stortford 85m ASL.
White Meadows
Monday, June 10, 2024 6:49:04 PM

Because she didn’t misinterpret me I guess

The lack of any sustained (few days plus) high temps at all, and a succession of temps even around 70+ for a sustained period (few days plus) for more than a couple of days IS utterly noteworthy in recent years here

(edit - just checked I didn’t write that I expect it to be 110f for 6 months straight)

Originally Posted by: Matty H 



😆🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Saint Snow
Monday, June 10, 2024 7:47:27 PM

The GFS 12z takes us to the Promised Land . Amen 🙏 

Originally Posted by: Ally Pally Snowman 



It's better, for sure, but I wouldn't put it in 'promised land' territory yet 😉

I'd prefer a high centred over the North Sea bringing in a SE'ly flow.

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Chunky Pea
Monday, June 10, 2024 9:24:14 PM

Mark my word they will claim June 2024 the warmest on record 🙄 despite latest ensembles I saw now is well below average to just tad below to average no single day above. Rain spikes record daily no dry days on the graph.  

Originally Posted by: Jiries 



In fairness the weather is very summery, just not with the usual abnormally high temps. 

Evening sky here now:

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White Meadows
Monday, June 10, 2024 9:33:03 PM

In fairness the weather is very summery, just not with the usual abnormally high temps. 

Evening sky here now:

 

Originally Posted by: Chunky Pea 

…had quite a few sunsets in January just like that one 🤣🤣
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Gandalf The White
Monday, June 10, 2024 10:24:51 PM

Except I didn’t say that

Originally Posted by: Matty H 



You said “The absolute lack of any actual or remotely sustained heat beyond a day or so far is utterly noteworthy. ”

I was pointing out why you might have believed that to be the case. It should not be noteworthy in the context of what a normal British summer used to be.
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52.0N 0.1E


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Gandalf The White
Monday, June 10, 2024 10:25:56 PM

…had quite a few sunsets in January just like that one 🤣🤣

Originally Posted by: White Meadows 



You can sunsets like that every evening of the year. 
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130 metres ASL
52.0N 0.1E


Chunky Pea
Monday, June 10, 2024 10:28:44 PM

You can sunsets like that every evening of the year. 

Originally Posted by: Gandalf The White 



Not here you can't 🤣
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Chunky Pea
Monday, June 10, 2024 10:32:51 PM

…had quite a few sunsets in January just like that one 🤣🤣

Originally Posted by: White Meadows 



Yes, but this is June! A summer sunset sky. Very dry if not overly warm June. I'll take it anytime over the recent hot and humid summers. 
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